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CIA-31 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r9a174ee / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed compressed string features crasher and a few more potential memory errors - http://git.io/H2c2nA | 00:03 |
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shogun-buildbot_ | build #542 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test ruby_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/542 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:49 |
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shogun-buildbot_ | build #109 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/109 | 04:19 |
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wiking | blackburn: yo | 11:46 |
blackburn | wiking: hey! how are you? | 11:47 |
wiking | blackburn: sorry i haven't seen your message on time the other day | 11:47 |
blackburn | ah we are all busy nevermind :) | 11:47 |
wiking | yeah i'm recovering now from my wedding :) | 11:47 |
wiking | but now i'm more or less back | 11:47 |
blackburn | oh so we are congratulating you? | 11:48 |
blackburn | :) | 11:48 |
wiking | have u seen michal around lately? | 11:48 |
wiking | yeye :))) | 11:48 |
blackburn | no he rather disappear | 11:48 |
wiking | :( | 11:48 |
blackburn | is it your first time? :) | 11:48 |
wiking | hehehe first and last i hope | 11:48 |
wiking | i have some problems with the dualsolver | 11:48 |
wiking | maybe i should email him :S | 11:49 |
blackburn | bmrm? | 11:49 |
wiking | yeps | 11:49 |
blackburn | what's wrong? | 11:49 |
wiking | well | 11:49 |
wiking | the whole thing starts with w = 0 | 11:49 |
wiking | and basically when i give it a problem to solve | 11:49 |
wiking | it doesn't converge to anywhere :( | 11:49 |
wiking | w is zero | 11:49 |
wiking | and after 2 iteration the whole thing stops | 11:50 |
blackburn | did you tune lambda? | 11:50 |
wiking | haven't touched yet that | 11:50 |
wiking | but then again | 11:50 |
wiking | it's weird | 11:50 |
blackburn | oh that's the reason then | 11:50 |
wiking | mmm let me try | 11:50 |
wiking | do u have a good lambda? | 11:50 |
blackburn | no idea, just try some small/large | 11:51 |
blackburn | the reason you get w=0 is that you overregularize that | 11:51 |
blackburn | so the algorithm prefers w=0 rather than avoid any errors on train set | 11:51 |
wiking | lemme check what was the lambda | 11:52 |
wiking | ok so lambda = 0.100000 is not good | 11:52 |
wiking | i'll try now with 10 | 11:52 |
blackburn | lambda is 1/C for svms | 11:54 |
blackburn | IIRC | 11:54 |
wiking | yeps | 11:54 |
blackburn | no idea if #count counts here as well | 11:54 |
wiking | ok so neither 0.001 nor 10.0 does anything | 11:54 |
blackburn | try some extreme values like 1e-10 and 10e10 | 11:55 |
wiking | i think i still have some other problem | 11:55 |
wiking | basically w keeps being 0 | 11:55 |
blackburn | what is the model? | 11:55 |
wiking | ok lemme copy-paste the risk function | 11:56 |
wiking | \lambda||\mathbf{w}||^2 + \sum_{i=1}^n \left( \max_{(\hat{y},\hat{h}) \in YxH} \left[ \mathbf{w} \cdot \Psi(x_i, \hat{y}, \hat{h})+\Delta(y_i, \hat{y}, \hat{h}) \right ] \right ) - \sum_{i=1}^n \mathbf{w} \cdot \Psi(x_i, y_i, h^*_i) | 11:57 |
wiking | put it here for easy reading | 11:57 |
wiking | http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php | 11:58 |
blackburn | so latent thing again :) | 11:58 |
wiking | basically the last term is = 0 because of w=0 | 11:58 |
wiking | and the 2nd term is -245 | 11:58 |
wiking | and that's it | 11:58 |
wiking | it doesn't move anywhere | 11:58 |
blackburn | can you paste the thing BMRM output? | 11:59 |
wiking | [DEBUG] risk: -245.000000 0.000000 0: tim=0.545, Fp=-245.000000, Fd=-inf, R=-245.000000 | 11:59 |
wiking | [DEBUG] risk: -245.000000 0.000000 1: tim=0.550, Fp=-245.000000, Fd=-0.000000, (Fp-Fd)=-245.000000, (Fp-Fd)/Fp=1.000000, R=-245.000000, nCP=1, nzA=0, QPexitflag=1 | 11:59 |
blackburn | I find that confusing to have exactly 245.0 | 12:00 |
wiking | it's because of \Delta(y_i, \hat{y}, \hat{h}) | 12:01 |
wiking | buuuut | 12:01 |
wiking | i think i'm stupid :)))) | 12:01 |
wiking | yes | 12:01 |
blackburn | ah it is hamming-like? | 12:01 |
blackburn | I see | 12:01 |
wiking | yeah | 12:01 |
wiking | but | 12:01 |
wiking | i did | 12:01 |
wiking | w*psi - delta | 12:02 |
wiking | instead of | 12:02 |
wiking | w*psi + delta | 12:02 |
wiking | in the 2nd term | 12:02 |
blackburn | heh | 12:02 |
wiking | dunno why | 12:02 |
blackburn | try brand new thing then :) | 12:02 |
wiking | trying with 0.01 lambda | 12:03 |
wiking | hahahah much better | 12:03 |
wiking | it's already at the 42th iteration | 12:03 |
wiking | 55 | 12:03 |
wiking | and counting | 12:03 |
blackburn | lets hope it converge | 12:03 |
wiking | well now fp went down to 8 | 12:04 |
wiking | from 245.000000 | 12:04 |
wiking | ;) | 12:04 |
blackburn | wiking: so something promising now? | 12:10 |
wiking | iteration 450 ;) | 12:10 |
blackburn | ehh what's dual gap? | 12:10 |
wiking | 489: tim=1.278, Fp=2.828893, Fd=2.449111, (Fp-Fd)=0.379781, (Fp-Fd)/Fp=0.134251, R=0.379781, nCP=223, nzA=214, QPexitflag=1 | 12:11 |
blackburn | uh | 12:12 |
blackburn | tight | 12:12 |
wiking | ok maybe i should change lambda | 12:14 |
blackburn | wiking: I expect either problem is hard to solve or you've got hard to solve parameters | 12:14 |
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wiking | wtf | 12:45 |
wiking | this shit took about 7gigs of ram | 12:45 |
blackburn | wow | 13:03 |
wiking | yeah i think i should valgrind the shit out of it ;) | 13:50 |
CIA-31 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * re0a93ad / (3 files in 2 dirs): A few more stringfeatures improvements - http://git.io/bHbEEA | 15:29 |
wiking | yey i was leaking | 15:31 |
wiking | and am still but not that much at least | 15:31 |
blackburn | wiking: what is leaking? | 15:32 |
blackburn | your code? | 15:32 |
wiking | yeah | 15:32 |
wiking | mmm when should this converge...ever? :) | 15:36 |
blackburn | should converge in 200-300 iters in a normal way | 15:37 |
blackburn | as I believe I mean | 15:37 |
blackburn | well | 15:37 |
blackburn | that's all a bit strange | 15:37 |
wiking | yeah i'm at iter 900 | 15:37 |
wiking | trying with different lambda | 15:40 |
wiking | blackburn: something for reading: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/csdl/doi/10.1109/TPAMI.2012.197 :) | 15:44 |
blackburn | pdf unavailable heh | 15:45 |
wiking | mmm | 15:45 |
blackburn | I guess you've got some university access for that? | 15:46 |
wiking | haven't tried | 15:46 |
wiking | i've just read the abstract ;) | 15:46 |
wiking | i'll check it | 15:46 |
blackburn | wiking: I'm now attacking stereo matchin' problem | 15:51 |
wiking | hiih | 15:52 |
blackburn | surprisingly that's kind of hard to be real-time thing | 15:52 |
wiking | yep | 15:52 |
blackburn | but I have to make it realtime | 15:52 |
wiking | oh bmrm why u no converge! | 15:52 |
blackburn | bmrm can haz converge I am sure :) | 15:53 |
wiking | yeah i think i need something like this | 15:53 |
wiking | but with bmrm | 15:53 |
wiking | http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9090678.jpg | 15:53 |
wiking | :D | 15:53 |
blackburn | so risk is decreasing and decreasing? | 15:53 |
blackburn | heh | 15:53 |
blackburn | and decreasing once again | 15:53 |
wiking | yeah indeed it does | 15:53 |
wiking | 0.168798 | 15:54 |
wiking | this is the risk atm :D | 15:54 |
blackburn | how much it decreases iteration by iteration? | 15:54 |
wiking | 0.01 | 15:54 |
blackburn | hmm | 15:54 |
wiking | it's basically moving around 0.15-0.17 | 15:54 |
wiking | for the last 10 iterations | 15:54 |
blackburn | may be you could try wider tolerance? | 15:55 |
blackburn | just to check it converges to something consistent | 15:55 |
wiking | how? which parameter? | 15:55 |
wiking | as now i'm using everything default | 15:55 |
wiking | except lambda | 15:55 |
blackburn | lemme check | 15:55 |
wiking | lambda is 0.01 | 15:55 |
blackburn | wiking: is your class built on top of dual lib qp bm so svm? | 15:56 |
wiking | sortof | 15:56 |
blackburn | set_TolRel | 15:56 |
blackburn | 1e-3 by default | 15:56 |
wiking | so i guess 0.1 would be nicer than :) | 15:57 |
blackburn | try that | 15:57 |
wiking | ok doin' | 15:57 |
wiking | ok risk is still going down with 1.0 | 15:58 |
wiking | mmm | 15:59 |
wiking | still nada | 16:00 |
wiking | i have like 122 cutting planes | 16:00 |
wiking | the risk is moving between 1.3-1.4 | 16:01 |
shogun-buildbot_ | build #543 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test ruby_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/543 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 16:13 |
wiking | oh woah | 16:15 |
wiking | after iter 896: tim=1.641, Fp=2.754775, Fd=2.489348, (Fp-Fd)=0.265427, (Fp-Fd)/Fp=0.096352, R=0.265427, nCP=272, nzA=265, QPexitflag=1 | 16:15 |
wiking | it converge | 16:15 |
wiking | d | 16:15 |
blackburn | wiking: anything consistent or? | 16:29 |
shogun-buildbot_ | build #110 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/110 | 16:58 |
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heiko | sonney2k, around? | 18:10 |
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CIA-31 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r2250ce5 / src/interfaces/ruby_modular/swig_typemaps.i : Fixed ruby string typemaps - http://git.io/T1gxxQ | 21:04 |
shogun-buildbot_ | build #544 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test lua_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/544 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 21:47 |
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