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| sumit | blackburn,hi!have been busy working on some course projects for the past few days,shall tell you more on scopes for deep learning, :) did you go through the code..?i had mailed it on your other email address , | 18:16 |
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| sumit | i ll work on refining that code too! | 18:16 |
| blackburn | sumit: hey, yes, glanced over it | 18:16 |
| sumit | good :) | 18:16 |
| blackburn | sumit: however if you want to integrate it you'd have to learn shogun structure and github development workflow | 18:17 |
| sumit | you might not have found it upto the mark though :P ,, or simply futile,but i promise i shall work on them all ,,Yes exactly,that was a big drawback,,I should better get well versed woth shogun and github developments :) my apologies for that | 18:18 |
| blackburn | well nothing to apologize - just try shogun at some point | 18:19 |
| sumit | ohk perfectly fine :) I will do the needful :) thanks ... | 18:20 |
| sumit | any news on gsoc 2013..? | 18:21 |
| blackburn | no, I think we have nothing yet | 18:22 |
| sumit | ok :) thanks , anyways I shall get back to you soon :) | 18:23 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, heiko1 wiking_ - so it is official | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | gsoc 2013 is there | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | yeah! | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 | 20:30 |
| @sonney2k | 1month till application deadline | 20:30 |
| heiko1 | just read | 20:30 |
| heiko1 | I will write a description soon | 20:30 |
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| heiko1 | sonney2k, already thoughts on projects? | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, so put the ideas page up then we can continue | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, sure | 20:33 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, well the question was: which? | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | 1 cleanup project for supporting i/o for all the different features in all standard formats as usual :D | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | 1 project doing examples in $LANG + graphically / interactive via website w/ d3js | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | awesome! | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | like that | 20:34 |
| @sonney2k | 1 project to get rid of the static interfaces mostly and merge them in elwms and move the elwms features to python modular too (being able to run R scripts from python_modular etc) | 20:35 |
| heiko1 | btw sonney2k, you once sent me a link where some presentation was made with d3js and something else and all was moving, which one was that? | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | 1 project optimization stuff with vojtech maybe | 20:35 |
| heiko1 | like that too, we need R support | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | 1 project hashing features with olivier | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | oh, I could need a krylov method iterative linear solver for mine, maybe this could be combined somehow | 20:36 |
| @sonney2k | 1 project fast kernel approximations with smola's gang ;) | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | that also sounds cool | 20:36 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, I cannot admin this year though but 1 student should be OK | 20:37 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, yeah that was d3js | 20:39 |
| heiko1 | but I remember it moving around, when I google d3js nothing moves | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, it does | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | crazily actually | 20:40 |
| heiko1 | so where to find thos | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | d3js | 20:40 |
| heiko1 | ah, I guesss last time my browser wasnt working | 20:41 |
| heiko1 | awesome! | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | ah not all of the examples move | 20:42 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, it is a matter of 1 line of js to make things morph in d3 | 20:47 |
| @sonney2k | but it would be very cool to have such stuff on the website | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | indeed | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | especially with interactive examples :) | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | gp heatmaps and stuff like that :) | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | the only thing that worries me is that we are late organizing this year | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | it is all very doable still but we need a release this year before gsoc at all cost | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | that is within 1 month or we will screw up badly with tons of new changes coming in again | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, btw I didn't like your answer on the mailinglist | 20:49 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, which one? | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | I am very much in favor of removing C1/C2 | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | it is totally useless in practice | 20:50 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, well still doesnt hurt you | 20:50 |
| @sonney2k | the most general solution would be to use SGMatrix<flaot64_t> C | 20:50 |
| heiko1 | my point was more that its not high-priority (we talked about this 2 years ago) | 20:50 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, agreed | 20:50 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, it hurts - takes way to long to do MS | 20:50 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, but consider how many people are asking about this | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | so yes it is needed | 20:51 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, true | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | much more than C1/C2 | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | question is if we would do SGMatrix C | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | can we do MS then? | 20:51 |
| heiko1 | so sgmatrix C has a C for every *what*? | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | or would we have to use some hack say - float C : if C == 0 -> c_matrix is used? | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, no c_matrix is like: | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | 1) 1 element == usual C | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | 2) 2 elements == like C1 / C2 | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | 3) a (2,n) matrix -> a C for each element | 20:53 |
| heiko1 | ah, I see | 20:53 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, but can we do MS with SGMatrices? | 20:53 |
| heiko1 | thinking ... | 20:53 |
| heiko1 | I mean, in principal, yes | 20:54 |
| heiko1 | but this having multiple possibilities is a bit more difficult I guess | 20:55 |
| heiko1 | but wait | 20:55 |
| heiko1 | no it should be no problem | 20:55 |
| heiko1 | since the SVM handles to case distinctions for the C-matrix having different structure right? | 20:55 |
| @sonney2k | heiko1, I am talking about the standard case mostly - would grid search work for a single element? | 20:55 |
| heiko1 | I think yes, it might need a bit of tuning (since not done yet) | 20:56 |
| heiko1 | but it is possible | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | (like everything :) | 20:56 |
| heiko1 | I mean the model selection just iterates through the parameter tree combinations and sets their elements to the registered parameters | 20:56 |
| heiko1 | and this works for matrices | 20:56 |
| heiko1 | the parameter trees can also contain matrices | 20:57 |
| heiko1 | the only thing is that we do not have a set-range for matrices | 20:57 |
| heiko1 | but these can be set by hand for now | 20:57 |
| heiko1 | quite some time ago, I cannot perfectly remember how this works :) | 20:58 |
| heiko1 | sonney2k, I will go home now, still in the office and its definitely time for Feierabend! :) | 20:59 |
| heiko1 | see you later | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | cu | 20:59 |
| heiko1 | btw I will have a look at the stuff soon and come up with a more precise "how difficult is that" answer | 21:00 |
| heiko1 | I also recently started coding a bit again, so will try to fix/finish things for release, and I just stopped adding features to my stuff, so only testing etc, | 21:01 |
| heiko1 | bye | 21:01 |
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| blackburn | alright sonney2k | 21:59 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: will make a draft of ideas page | 22:03 |
| blackburn | tomorrow | 22:03 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ok - just copy the page from last year | 22:09 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I wanted to fill in some ideas | 22:09 |
| @sonney2k | sure feel free to clean up the old page | 22:10 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: so you want 1) cleanup, i/o 2) examples 3) static stuff 4) vojtech 5) olivier 6) fast kernel | 22:14 |
| blackburn | if we get igor 7) some compressive sensing | 22:14 |
| blackburn | then 8) heiko's krylov (??, I am not sure it is a summer-long project) | 22:14 |
| blackburn | and 9) I'd like to have someone on dimension reduction | 22:15 |
| blackburn | I am not that happy with 2) and 3) - it is way too difficult for me to define such projects | 22:16 |
| blackburn | in general this could be done meanwhile by most active students and mentors like you and me | 22:17 |
| blackburn | so lets negotiate that later | 22:17 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I'd appreciate if you give me some information (just brief) who should I contact with (olivier, ...) | 22:20 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I will ask them | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I would mentor 2) or 3) - but I guess 3 only if your roommate does it :D | 23:02 |
| @sonney2k | it is tough stuff | 23:02 |
| @sonney2k | but 2) is really what we need for promotion one needs python, d3js, django, a little ML and artistics skills to do this tough ... | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | though | 23:05 |
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