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| n4nd0 | sonney2k: it looks from the mails that the webpage is crashing badly | 02:54 |
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| n4nd0 | I will take a look ASAP (by Monday I think) | 02:54 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #317 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/317 | 03:55 |
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| blackburn | wiking: ping | 16:15 |
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| heiko1 | blackburn, around=? | 19:29 |
| blackburn | heiko1: yes | 19:29 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: what about your unstable methods? | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | multiclass logistic regression? | 19:30 |
| blackburn | heiko1: MC LR? | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | do we need those? | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | should I leave them? | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | why did you add them? | 19:30 |
| blackburn | feel free to remove | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | what about a test instead? :D | 19:30 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I was unsure it is working properly | 19:30 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I am in limited time to write a test.. it had low score on my dataset IIRC | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: well did you test it? | 19:30 |
| heiko1 | or just hacked it and then left the room? :) | 19:31 |
| blackburn | heiko1: no I used it for something | 19:31 |
| heiko1 | well then, I will remove. Feel free to attach a test :) I am a fan of tests nowadays :) | 19:31 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * cfb5bf7 / src/shogun/lib/tapkee/ (35 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/cfb5bf76fe67654d01a80895b71226a50b729f0b | 19:41 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Big update for tapkee | 19:41 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 19:41 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: - Relicensed code to BSD | 19:41 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: - Better includes arrangement | 19:41 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: - Doc improvements | 19:41 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I went away from gpl :) | 19:41 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: to? | 19:41 |
| heiko1 | bsd? | 19:41 |
| blackburn | heiko1: bsd | 19:41 |
| heiko1 | wow | 19:41 |
| heiko1 | reasons? | 19:41 |
| blackburn | heiko1: simpler, want to allow commercial use | 19:42 |
| heiko1 | thats possible with gpl | 19:42 |
| blackburn | heiko1: lgpl then | 19:42 |
| heiko1 | gpl also allows that | 19:42 |
| heiko1 | as far as I know? | 19:42 |
| blackburn | heiko1: you'd need to publish your sources with gpl | 19:42 |
| heiko1 | well yes | 19:43 |
| blackburn | with lgpl it is better | 19:43 |
| heiko1 | but that doesnt block commercial use | 19:43 |
| heiko1 | and it ensures that tapkee gets better | 19:43 |
| blackburn | heiko1: no it doesn't | 19:43 |
| blackburn | heiko1: well gpl tries to do that but from my point it doesn't :) | 19:44 |
| heiko1 | well, its your project :) | 19:44 |
| heiko1 | many people use bsd in fact | 19:44 |
| heiko1 | the google libs are also bsd | 19:44 |
| blackburn | I mean yes people somewhat should publish changes that they have done | 19:44 |
| blackburn | (with gpl) | 19:44 |
| heiko1 | yes | 19:45 |
| blackburn | but I'd say gpl just scary away people and nothing more :D | 19:45 |
| heiko1 | I dont really think so, but lets dont start a discussion :) | 19:45 |
| blackburn | I'd rather let people do whatever they want | 19:45 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: do you know how I can paste code to ipython? | 19:45 |
| heiko1 | intended code | 19:45 |
| blackburn | heiko1: nope | 19:45 |
| heiko1 | it tells me something about %dpaste magic | 19:45 |
| heiko1 | but I dont know that | 19:45 |
| blackburn | heiko1: we didn't receive any improvement of shogun :) | 19:45 |
| blackburn | from closed-source side | 19:46 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I am actually still tied to LGPL as covertree is LGPL | 19:46 |
| heiko1 | I doubt that this would have been the case if we had bsd | 19:46 |
| blackburn | heiko1: no it won't be the case | 19:47 |
| blackburn | so if there is no difference.. | 19:47 |
| blackburn | heiko1: so you started to use ipython? | 19:49 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: yes | 19:49 |
| heiko1 | the python terminal sucks so much I couldnt take it any longer :) | 19:49 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I don't use python that much but should get to it too | 19:49 |
| heiko1 | ipython is very nice | 19:50 |
| heiko1 | tab autocompletition | 19:50 |
| heiko1 | etc | 19:50 |
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| blackburn | heiko1: and moreover I do not like what FSF declare :) | 19:54 |
| heiko1 | I tend to ignore these things :) | 19:54 |
| blackburn | heiko1: 'android is not free! they must share anything!' | 19:54 |
| heiko1 | but I like the fact that people are forced to publish source code, | 19:54 |
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| heiko1 | but I might be wrong with this | 19:54 |
| blackburn | heiko1: well imagine the case people do paid research | 19:55 |
| blackburn | and they are disallowed to share the code | 19:55 |
| heiko1 | then dont use gpl | 19:55 |
| blackburn | then they wouldn't use shogun, right? | 19:55 |
| heiko1 | they could | 19:55 |
| heiko1 | they only would have to release the shogun source | 19:55 |
| blackburn | heiko1: well they could definitely get trouble with gpl software | 19:57 |
| blackburn | that's why I think research code should rather be bsd/mit/anything | 19:57 |
| heiko1 | no, you only have to show your changes | 19:57 |
| heiko1 | but not if you use shogun for something else | 19:57 |
| heiko1 | just shogun has to be released | 19:57 |
| heiko1 | I dont agree, I want my research/code to be available for everyone | 19:58 |
| blackburn | heiko1: that's the case | 19:58 |
| heiko1 | and I want people to force to keep this | 19:58 |
| blackburn | that's not my case :) | 19:58 |
| blackburn | I do not like to force people to do that, just if they want | 19:59 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #627 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/627 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 19:59 |
| heiko1 | then use bsd :) | 19:59 |
| blackburn | I do not expect someone could really make something significantly better from my code | 19:59 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: thats a good point indeed | 20:00 |
| heiko1 | but look for example at wine | 20:00 |
| heiko1 | codeweavers is like doing half of the development | 20:00 |
| heiko1 | and everything *has* to go back to wine | 20:00 |
| blackburn | heiko1: that's totally different thing - I like that big stuff is GPL | 20:00 |
| heiko1 | which is good, because its getting better | 20:00 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I actually like that shogun is gpl too (but it could restrict some users too) | 20:03 |
| blackburn | heiko1: but small tools, I'd rather let them free, my name here is more important for me than any restrictions - I would be just happy if somebody used it | 20:04 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: yeah, you are right, I think it is a matter of taste | 20:04 |
| heiko1 | however, companies can easily develop libraries that are much more sohpisticated than shogun/tapkee etc | 20:04 |
| blackburn | heiko1: no, I wouldn't say that's that easy | 20:05 |
| heiko1 | as a company you want very specific things, not general frameworks like shogun | 20:05 |
| heiko1 | so if I need kernel PCA, I just implement it for my specific application | 20:05 |
| heiko1 | much easier to controll | 20:05 |
| blackburn | heiko1: yeah sure, for simple algorithms | 20:06 |
| heiko1 | well, what is a complicated algorithm? | 20:06 |
| heiko1 | any complicated algorithm is a horror to maintain | 20:06 |
| heiko1 | so I would rather implement it from scratch | 20:07 |
| heiko1 | and make sure that it works | 20:07 |
| heiko1 | that using somebody else's code, espicially if I was a company that depends on it | 20:07 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I think liblinear is used though | 20:07 |
| heiko1 | I want to have 99.999% reliability and you can never expect that from open-source software | 20:07 |
| heiko1 | these things are different again | 20:07 |
| heiko1 | since very small pieces of software like you said | 20:08 |
| heiko1 | so these should be bsd style | 20:08 |
| heiko1 | anyway, I really want to avoid these discussions :) currently fixing warnings | 20:08 |
| blackburn | heiko1: heh alright | 20:08 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * da237a4 / src/LICENSE.tapkee: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/da237a41d4932068ae37ec5121b263a03b7fcb48 | 20:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Added tapkee license file | 20:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * 6a89ce1 / src/shogun/multiclass/MulticlassLogisticRegression.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/6a89ce13a1961ccab9863c395461a3aed49bc836 | 20:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Removed unstable from MC LR | 20:10 |
| blackburn | heiko1: what are warnings you fix? | 20:15 |
| heiko1 | perceptron | 20:15 |
| heiko1 | changing example to use linearly seperable data | 20:15 |
| blackburn | I see | 20:16 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: do you know how I change the testsuite? | 20:17 |
| heiko1 | since I changed the xamples | 20:17 |
| blackburn | heiko1: guys from scikit-learn redirect gsoc-newcomers directly to writing unittests | 20:17 |
| blackburn | heiko1: you run generator.py probably | 20:17 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: that is a very good idea! | 20:17 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: what do I commit then? | 20:17 |
| blackburn | heiko1: it stores the output to data | 20:17 |
| blackburn | I think there was a way to do that for concrete example | 20:18 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: cool so then I just commit the data? | 20:18 |
| blackburn | yeah | 20:18 |
| heiko1 | but only my files right? | 20:19 |
| heiko1 | how do I do this? :D | 20:19 |
| heiko1 | (sorry for being so dumb with those things) | 20:19 |
| blackburn | heiko1: what do you need to update? | 20:19 |
| heiko1 | perceptron classifier ex | 20:19 |
| blackburn | heiko1: python generator.py ../../../examples/undocumented/python_modular/classifier_averaged_perceptron_modular.py | 20:21 |
| heiko1 | so only this example file or what? | 20:21 |
| heiko1 | Ah | 20:22 |
| heiko1 | I see | 20:22 |
| heiko1 | thanks | 20:22 |
| blackburn | heiko1: it should update the file I think | 20:22 |
| heiko1 | my git does not show me any changes to a data file? | 20:23 |
| blackburn | bad | 20:23 |
| blackburn | lets reverse engineer that then | 20:24 |
| heiko1 | maybe I will just ask sonney2k, this will be faster :) | 20:24 |
| heiko1 | I will commit examples for now and then update testsuite tomorrow or something | 20:24 |
| blackburn | heiko1: no it should update the file | 20:24 |
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| heiko1 | blackburn: I will try to solve some of the integration test issues this week | 20:25 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: maybe you could focus on the reported bugs? | 20:25 |
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| heiko1 | would be great to have the testsuite in the buildbot | 20:25 |
| blackburn | heiko1: do we have any unclosed bugs? | 20:25 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: vw | 20:26 |
| heiko1 | mkl modelselection | 20:26 |
| heiko1 | with vw I mean the streaming stuff | 20:26 |
| blackburn | ha, what a PITA | 20:26 |
| heiko1 | I have the feeling if we leave that now, we will never fix it | 20:26 |
| heiko1 | and then it is lost | 20:26 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I will try to find some time for that this week | 20:26 |
| blackburn | heiko1: lets play a game | 20:27 |
| heiko1 | Russian roulette? :D | 20:27 |
| blackburn | heiko1: we should commit one unit-test each day | 20:27 |
| blackburn | and if one of us didn't that | 20:27 |
| blackburn | other one cuts a finger of this unlucky boy | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | haha | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | let me think ... | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | ... | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | ... | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | ... | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | NO! | 20:28 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #628 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/628 | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | :D | 20:28 |
| blackburn | haha | 20:28 |
| blackburn | I though so | 20:28 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | so I changed the examples | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | I ran generator | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | the tester sais that examples are fine | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | (so I assume the data has changed) | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | my git shows that data is different | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | but doesnt show anything | 20:29 |
| blackburn | heiko1: are you in ../data dir? | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | so I dont know what has changed / whether the right stuff has changed | 20:29 |
| heiko1 | using graphical git tool from shogun root | 20:30 |
| blackburn | no, enter data dir first | 20:30 |
| blackburn | as it is a submodule | 20:30 |
| blackburn | different repo inside a repo | 20:30 |
| blackburn | I heard you like lisp so I put a lisp to your lisp | 20:30 |
| heiko1 | I like lisp??? | 20:30 |
| blackburn | heiko1: http://static1.blip.pl/user_generated/update_pictures/1582299.jpg | 20:31 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: haha :) | 20:31 |
| blackburn | heiko1: so were any changes be detected? | 20:32 |
| heiko1 | yes :) | 20:32 |
| heiko1 | but my gitg fails to show them to me | 20:32 |
| blackburn | use console luke | 20:32 |
| blackburn | I don't trust GUI :D | 20:32 |
| heiko1 | gitg is so buggy :) | 20:33 |
| heiko1 | and then? normal push? | 20:34 |
| blackburn | heiko1: yes push that file | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | how to send it back? | 20:34 |
| blackburn | heiko1: back to? | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | I committed locally | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | how do I send it to shogun git | 20:34 |
| blackburn | there is a command | 20:34 |
| blackburn | let me remember | 20:34 |
| blackburn | git push ! | 20:34 |
| blackburn | :D | 20:34 |
| blackburn | jk, just git push | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | fatal: remote error: | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | You can't push to git://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:34 |
| heiko1 | Use git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:34 |
| blackburn | oh okay | 20:35 |
| heiko1 | should I do that? | 20:35 |
| blackburn | surgery | 20:35 |
| blackburn | heiko1: wait a minute | 20:35 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git remote set-url origin git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:35 |
| heiko1 | To git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | ! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward) | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git' | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | hint: Updates were rejected because a pushed branch tip is behind its remote | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | hint: counterpart. If you did not intend to push that branch, you may want to | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | hint: specify branches to push or set the 'push.default' configuration | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | hint: variable to 'current' or 'upstream' to push only the current branch. | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | uh | 20:36 |
| blackburn | git push origin master | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: would you mind updating the data? | 20:36 |
| heiko1 | I will push the new examples | 20:37 |
| blackburn | heiko1: just specify a branch and you will push it | 20:37 |
| heiko1 | can I safely do git pull in the xamples? | 20:37 |
| heiko1 | sorry in the data/ dir | 20:37 |
| blackburn | pull? what for? | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | heiko@heiko-ThinkPad-T420:~/Desktop/shogun/shogun/data$ git push origin master | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | To git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | ! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward) | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git' | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | hint: Updates were rejected because a pushed branch tip is behind its remote | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | hint: counterpart. Check out this branch and merge the remote changes | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | hint: (e.g. 'git pull') before pushing again. | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details. | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | heiko@heiko-ThinkPad-T420:~/Desktop/shogun/shogun/data$ | 20:38 |
| blackburn | just git pull --rebase then | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | unstaged changes argh | 20:38 |
| blackburn | git stash | 20:38 |
| blackburn | git pull --rebase | 20:38 |
| blackburn | git stash pop | 20:38 |
| blackburn | git push origin master | 20:38 |
| heiko1 | same error | 20:39 |
| heiko1 | I give up now | 20:39 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git status? | 20:39 |
| heiko1 | (sorry my tolerance with this is low, I know :) | 20:39 |
| blackburn | heiko1: how do you use linux? I feel I spent half a lifetime being stucked | 20:39 |
| blackburn | :D | 20:39 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: I know, I did this, but now I just want to update the example you know, not spend hours fighting with git | 20:40 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git status! | 20:40 |
| heiko1 | not currently in any branch | 20:40 |
| blackburn | heiko1: the more you fight the more precise your kung-fu is! | 20:40 |
| blackburn | heiko1: so we have a winner! | 20:41 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git reset HEAD~1 | 20:41 |
| heiko1 | just forced this | 20:41 |
| heiko1 | yes | 20:41 |
| blackburn | git checkout master | 20:41 |
| heiko1 | this always happens when I try to use git :) | 20:41 |
| blackburn | commit, push | 20:41 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git don't cry ;) | 20:42 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git it happens | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | same error | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | heiko@heiko-ThinkPad-T420:~/Desktop/shogun/shogun/data$ git push | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | To git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | ! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward) | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@github.com:shogun-toolbox/shogun-data.git' | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | hint: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | hint: its remote counterpart. Merge the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull') | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | hint: before pushing again. | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details. | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | heiko@heiko-ThinkPad-T420:~/Desktop/shogun/shogun/data$ | 20:42 |
| blackburn | heiko1: git stash && git pull --rebase && git stash pop && git push origin master? | 20:42 |
| heiko1 | that worked, lets see :) | 20:43 |
| blackburn | heiko1: lesson #1 : don't use git | 20:43 |
| blackburn | :D | 20:43 |
| heiko1 | how can I see whether I was sucessful? | 20:43 |
| blackburn | git status | 20:43 |
| blackburn | git pull | 20:43 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: I seriously hate complicated things :D | 20:44 |
| heiko1 | but how do I know that I just did not delete my new data? | 20:44 |
| heiko1 | where can I see whether its in data now | 20:44 |
| blackburn | heiko1: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data | 20:44 |
| blackburn | we have nothing out there | 20:44 |
| blackburn | heiko1: run generator again I think | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :master * 92439e3 / src/shogun/multiclass/MulticlassLogisticRegression.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/92439e34ed87bda59a58be24ee52169bb877f38f | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: removed unstable warning and added some proper assertion messages | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :master * 83bc042 / examples/undocumented/python_modular/classifier_perceptron_modular.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/83bc0426c9801ae745ac509843068a019652a843 | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: changed training data to be (probably) linearly seperable to avoid warnings | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :master * ac2044b / examples/undocumented/python_modular/classifier_averaged_perceptron_modular.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ac2044bd27f3c7162de362d6bef2b0621c66dfa3 | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: changed training data to be (probably) linearly seperable to avoid warnings | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :master * 56ce595 / examples/undocumented/python_modular/classifier_averaged_perceptron_modular.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/56ce595b10cdd742414f99b95552b6738d76d38a | 20:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: fixed copy/paste error | 20:45 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :master * 2f9db76 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2f9db76ec1bef4e598a765ffd50cfd67c6ce32df | 20:45 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #914 from karlnapf/master | 20:45 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 20:45 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: example remove warning | 20:45 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: tells me it did not work | 20:45 |
| blackburn | heiko1: you weren't at any branch.. just run generator again | 20:45 |
| blackburn | and commit as usual | 20:45 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: sucess!! | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | thanks :) | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | thanks for looking after my stupidity, I think I know how it works now | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: will do some cooking now, see you later! | 20:47 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: we should be at zero waninngs with that now | 20:48 |
| blackburn | heiko1: see you! | 20:51 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #630 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/630 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 20:52 |
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| heiko1 | blackburn: larank is totally broken, ouputs nonsense | 21:10 |
| heiko1 | when was it last edited? | 21:10 |
| heiko1 | or maybe its the multiclass stuff? | 21:10 |
| blackburn | heiko1: that's pretty nice | 21:10 |
| heiko1 | I will write a unit test on linearly seperable data ... | 21:11 |
| blackburn | heiko1: I used larank year ago may be | 21:11 |
| heiko1 | ok | 21:12 |
| heiko1 | so first step is unit test :) | 21:12 |
| heiko1 | I am so glad we have those! | 21:12 |
| blackburn | heiko1: yes ideally the software should be made of unit-tests first | 21:12 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: agreed | 21:12 |
| heiko1 | but we can force this from now on | 21:13 |
| heiko1 | blackburn: lol | 21:18 |
| heiko1 | larank example asserts that batch output and output is the same | 21:18 |
| heiko1 | but doesnt check whether training labels are similar to training predictions :) | 21:18 |
| heiko1 | (which is what is wrong=) | 21:18 |
| blackburn | heiko1: hehe | 21:18 |
| blackburn | heiko1: C++ is actually a bad lang for proper testing unfortunately | 21:22 |
| heiko1 | I guess for us its different due to swig stuff etc | 21:22 |
| blackburn | heiko1: in say java it is much easier to analyze stuff | 21:22 |
| blackburn | heiko1: yes 2x | 21:22 |
| heiko1 | indeed | 21:22 |
| heiko1 | I would go for python everything, but its so cool with all the interfaces | 21:22 |
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| @sonney2k | heiko, so you got it to work? | 22:03 |
| @sonney2k | python generator.py example.py | 22:03 |
| @sonney2k | and then cd ../data | 22:03 |
| @sonney2k | and on master branch commit to your github remote (not the standard origin) | 22:04 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: yes he did | 22:05 |
| @sonney2k | ok then well done :) | 22:05 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: the only issue that arises with new submodule init - the submodule repo is not at any branch | 22:05 |
| blackburn | which means you lose your commits | 22:06 |
| @sonney2k | why would one do submodule init again? | 22:06 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: no reason but I guess heiko didn't commit anything yet | 22:06 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, heiko are you making progress wrt release? | 22:10 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I think so | 22:10 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, why did you add a separate license file for tapkee? | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ok | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | nice | 22:11 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: BSD :) | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | yeah but don't you have that in each file anyways? | 22:12 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I don't | 22:12 |
| @sonney2k | I mean inside of shogun it is all GPL anyways | 22:12 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: we actually should include liblinear license too | 22:12 |
| @sonney2k | no why? | 22:12 |
| blackburn | they want it | 22:12 |
| @sonney2k | liblinear / tapkee inside shogun are GPL ... | 22:12 |
| blackburn | Clearly indicate that LIBSVM is used. | 22:13 |
| blackburn | Retain the LIBSVM COPYRIGHT file in your software. | 22:13 |
| blackburn | well it is just what they say in faq | 22:13 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I didn't know if i should place a license file but I am referring it in sources so decided to put it in too | 22:13 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I hope you are ok with bsd ;) | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I don't care under which license you put your software. And as I said inside of shogun it is GPL anywyas | 22:14 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeah | 22:14 |
| @sonney2k | but for me BSD would not be an option :) | 22:16 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: why? | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | I like the GPL idea | 22:16 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: we talked with heiko - I like GPL idea for serious stuff | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | everything is serious | 22:17 |
| blackburn | but for useless crap like my software something more restrictive is better (for me) | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | less restrictive you mean? | 22:19 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeah sure | 22:20 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: we are measuring DR stuff now | 22:23 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: waffles uses super mega method for computing eigenvectors | 22:23 |
| blackburn | 100 power iterations | 22:23 |
| blackburn | that should be patented.. | 22:23 |
| blackburn | no more no less, 100 | 22:23 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: n4nd0 ran it yesterday and it didn't converge after 12 hours (that takes a few seconds for normal impls) | 22:24 |
| blackburn | we don't know what to write into the table in the paper.. | 22:24 |
| heiko | sonney2k: I think I got it how to do the testing, currently fixing la rank, thought there was a bug, but it was just nonsense input data (do not except classifier to do good stuff on noise :), added unit test and will change the data soon | 22:46 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: are you also getting those million mails about the webpage crashing? | 22:54 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: I have not looked into it but I think it might be caused because some page has been modified added from the admin interface | 22:54 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, no then it should not give errror msg's | 22:59 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, cool thanks! | 22:59 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: n4nd0: where from do you get mails? | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, the website | 23:01 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: it sends a message on crash? | 23:01 |
| @sonney2k | sure | 23:01 |
| blackburn | cool functionality | 23:01 |
| @sonney2k | backtraces | 23:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * 13ba0c7 / src/shogun/lib/tapkee/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/13ba0c7f37e58c23b0fc0a70f54933d428167f81 | 23:02 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: A few patches for tapkee | 23:02 |
| blackburn | heiko: I started a oneday-onetest game! | 23:05 |
| heiko | blackburn: I already updated two examples and fixed the integration tests! | 23:05 |
| blackburn | I think I'll lose my finger | 23:06 |
| blackburn | :D | 23:06 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * 84e4b13 / tests/unit/converter/Isomap_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/84e4b13917bd2e0d86e2640df00db768fcf40620 | 23:06 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Added isomap unittest | 23:06 |
| blackburn | uh I will have finger today | 23:07 |
| heiko | hehe :) | 23:07 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: did you manage to send a mail to quoc and olivier? | 23:11 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: why not? | 23:11 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: if some page is added and the attributes are not correctly set then it may crash | 23:11 |
| n4nd0 | I find no other reason to why it has been without problems for a couple of weeks and they started yesterday | 23:12 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #631 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/631 | 23:21 |
| n4nd0 | good night guys! | 23:25 |
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| heiko | blackburn: what is the multiclass data in the shogun data dir like? | 23:43 |
| heiko | does it make any sense? | 23:43 |
| blackburn | heiko: I don't know actually | 23:43 |
| heiko | are the class pairs linearly seperable? | 23:43 |
| blackburn | it wasn't done by me I am afraid | 23:44 |
| heiko | ok | 23:44 |
| blackburn | it was here before I came :) | 23:44 |
| heiko | blackburn: I think it is nonsense data | 23:46 |
| blackburn | heiko: might be.. | 23:46 |
| heiko | whats the point in measuring if a method does the same if this was nonsense? | 23:46 |
| blackburn | heiko: that's a secret chinese method | 23:46 |
| heiko | blackburn: another integration test now works! | 23:57 |
| heiko | blackburn: multiclass ocas? | 23:57 |
| heiko | fails on a toy problem | 23:57 |
| blackburn | heiko: nice | 23:57 |
| blackburn | heiko: fails? | 23:57 |
| blackburn | heiko: it worked too back in a day | 23:57 |
| heiko | [ 0. 1. 2. 0. 1. 2. 0. 1. 2. 0.] | 23:57 |
| heiko | [ 2. 1. 1. 2. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2.] | 23:57 |
| heiko | top is test label | 23:57 |
| heiko | below is predictions | 23:57 |
| heiko | easy multiclass data | 23:58 |
| heiko | has as many dimensions as classes and the dimension of the class is shifted | 23:58 |
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