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@wiking | if oooone more time somebody tells me that windows is an operating system.... | 10:02 |
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gsomix | good morning | 10:03 |
nube | wiking: +! | 10:03 |
nube | wiking: +1 | 10:03 |
gsomix | wiking, huh, wut's goin' on? | 10:04 |
@wiking | what is not going on | 10:06 |
@wiking | man this is a complete shit.... in 2013 it's a problem to build something for 64 bit | 10:07 |
@wiking | aaaand 32 bit | 10:07 |
gsomix | wiking, visual studio? | 10:08 |
gsomix | I'm just writing modules for matlab in visual studio. and version 2012 is crazy slow for debug other processes | 10:11 |
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gsomix | iglesiasg, hi. how are you? | 11:17 |
@iglesiasg | gsomix: hey, sorry to say that not so well | 11:18 |
@iglesiasg | gsomix: what about you_ | 11:18 |
gsomix | iglesiasg, fine. preparing to "pass/no pass" exams a little | 11:21 |
gsomix | iglesiasg, so what's happened? | 11:22 |
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@lisitsyn | wiking: win is not an os | 11:24 |
@lisitsyn | ;) | 11:24 |
@iglesiasg | gsomix: I am losing myself writing my $%@$ final degree project | 11:28 |
@iglesiasg | I missed my normal life :( | 11:28 |
@lisitsyn | iglesiasg: when is the deadline/ | 11:38 |
@lisitsyn | ? | 11:38 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn: there is no hard deadline, you present once you are done | 11:39 |
@iglesiasg | anyway, I expect to have finished writing by this weekend | 11:40 |
@iglesiasg | and present in max two weeks | 11:40 |
@lisitsyn | interesting :) | 11:40 |
@lisitsyn | iglesiasg: then set it for yourself ;) | 11:40 |
@lisitsyn | or you get tapkee story haha | 11:41 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn: haha indeed | 11:41 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn: I am massively using shogun for the thesis btw :) | 11:42 |
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@lisitsyn | iglesiasg: that's great | 11:44 |
@lisitsyn | iglesiasg: we all hope you will join phd studies and then >3 years of shoguning | 11:45 |
@lisitsyn | :) | 11:45 |
@lisitsyn | there is a chance to push it forward then | 11:45 |
@iglesiasg | yes! that would be great | 11:45 |
@lisitsyn | I am not sure if I leave 'industry' at some point | 11:45 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn: why not? you should do a phd too! | 11:46 |
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@sonney2k | lambday, hey lamb-day? Thanks for enlightening us about you nick :D | 17:30 |
lambday | sonney2k: lol | 17:30 |
@sonney2k | lambday, mind that I add your blog to shogun planet? | 17:30 |
lambday | sonney2k: no problem :) | 17:31 |
lambday | but its pretty useless as of now :( | 17:31 |
@sonney2k | lambday, here I mean http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun | 17:31 |
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lambday | sonney2k: sure :) | 17:31 |
lambday | sonney2k: I gotta be more careful what I write then :D | 17:32 |
lambday | once I was working from my lab and a guy came, saw my github id, and asked wtf is lamb-day :D | 17:32 |
@iglesiasg | day of the lamb! :D | 17:33 |
lambday | I'll go with the "silence" rather :D | 17:33 |
lambday | but lamb-silence sounded even stupid :D | 17:34 |
@sonney2k | lambday, OK you are on | 17:35 |
@sonney2k | lambday, something is weird though the headline is not a pointer to your blog as it is supposed to be | 17:35 |
lambday | sonney2k: I changed it later :-/ | 17:36 |
@HeikoS | lambday, haha, nice with the name | 17:37 |
lambday | HeikoS: :D | 17:38 |
@sonney2k | something is weird hmmhh | 17:38 |
lambday | I do realize that my email id is probably even weirdest among all of us :D | 17:38 |
lambday | I made it long back... like 7-8 years ago, to impress girls :| | 17:39 |
gsomix | Good. >> Your unsubscription to google-summer-of-code-students-list was successful. | 17:43 |
@sonney2k | lambday, heavensdevil! it works! | 17:43 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, it will come back | 17:43 |
@sonney2k | lambday, so now blog as much as you like :D | 17:43 |
lambday | sonney2k: not even once :D | 17:43 |
gsomix | sonney2k, really? oh. | 17:43 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, I am still suffering from the mentors mailinglist | 17:43 |
lambday | sonney2k: yup :D | 17:44 |
@sonney2k | for some reason I am subscribed with 2 email addresses | 17:44 |
lambday | sonney2k: *after checking the shogun-planet* shit just got real ! :-o | 17:46 |
@sonney2k | lambday, hehe | 17:49 |
@sonney2k | alright gtg | 17:49 |
gsomix | lambday, haskell-user? I think we need the haskell interface for shogun. but there is no support in the swig. :) | 17:49 |
lambday | sonney2k: ciao | 17:49 |
lambday | gsomix: I was totally in love with haskell... | 17:50 |
lambday | gsomix: now I hardly remember her name :( | 17:50 |
gsomix | lambday, huh. | 17:51 |
lambday | gsomix: jk... btw I checked it last year.. no swig support for haskell | 17:53 |
gsomix | and matlab support. it's really needed... but we can interface shogun with LISP! :D | 17:55 |
@lisitsyn | don't you guys know about filtering mails or what :D | 17:55 |
lambday | gsomix: that's a nice idea :) | 17:56 |
@lisitsyn | common lisp is supported | 17:56 |
lambday | I never used lisp :( | 17:57 |
lambday | carol is so patient! replies each and every mail !! | 17:58 |
@lisitsyn | yes she is an angel :D | 17:59 |
lambday | she really is... :-o | 17:59 |
gsomix | lisitsyn, interesting how many people uses lisp for ML? | 18:00 |
@lisitsyn | gsomix: no one? ML is just a linear algebra | 18:01 |
gsomix | lisitsyn, btw, I don't know about filtering. gmail's interface too hard for me. :( | 18:01 |
gsomix | lisitsyn, are there no blas/lapack wrappers for lisp? | 18:02 |
@lisitsyn | gsomix: you don't get any advantage calling wrappers - researchers just use matlab | 18:08 |
gsomix | lisitsyn, ok | 18:08 |
@lisitsyn | even simplest thing would look obscure (add x (add y z)) | 18:09 |
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foulwall | Ciao, everyone. | 18:33 |
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gsomix | sonney2k, sonne|work around? | 19:30 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, hey! | 19:39 |
@sonney2k | how is it going? | 19:39 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, do you have an idea how to make the code more re-usable? | 19:40 |
gsomix | sonney2k, not good and not bad. :] I'm sorry, but things will done tomorrow (or at night): many homework at the end of academic year. :| | 19:47 |
@sonney2k | :( | 19:48 |
gsomix | sonney2k, all ok..? I think I able to finish piece in a few hours. and then continue work on reader. | 19:54 |
gsomix | sonney2k, don't be sad. :) | 20:08 |
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@sonney2k | gsomix, :P | 20:15 |
@lisitsyn | sonney2k: meeting! when? | 20:16 |
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@sonney2k | lisitsyn, hmmhh maybe we should try to have a spontaneous meeting tomorrow at around 8:30pm | 21:23 |
@lisitsyn | I am available | 21:23 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, hushell pickle27 van51 you too? | 21:24 |
van51 | sonney2k: yeah | 21:24 |
@sonney2k | foulwall will be asleep for sure and v* too | 21:24 |
van51 | 8:30 gmt? | 21:24 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, alterantively we do 2 short ones | 21:25 |
@lisitsyn | I am available for anything | 21:25 |
gsomix | sonney2k, yep | 21:25 |
pickle27 | what time zone? | 21:26 |
@sonney2k | van51, well 11 UTC or 19 UTC | 21:26 |
@sonney2k | I am not sure yet | 21:26 |
pickle27 | I could do an early meeting tomorrow | 21:26 |
@sonney2k | pickle27, early as in? | 21:26 |
pickle27 | oh right woops | 21:27 |
pickle27 | timezones | 21:27 |
@sonney2k | UTC time please | 21:27 |
pickle27 | I am on mountain time for the moment at a conference | 21:27 |
@sonney2k | mountain? | 21:27 |
pickle27 | its 13:25 here for me | 21:27 |
@sonney2k | so UTC-6 | 21:28 |
@sonney2k | 11 would be 5 am for you then :D | 21:28 |
pickle27 | so maybe 19 UTC then? | 21:28 |
pickle27 | I can do that if we need to though | 21:28 |
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@sonney2k | vgorbat, do you have time tomorrow 11 UTC or 19 UTC? | 21:31 |
@sonney2k | lets have a short vote | 21:31 |
vgorbat | sonney2k: vote? | 21:31 |
@sonney2k | http://www.doodle.com/ekqntucvq9wb66cw#table | 21:32 |
@sonney2k | pickle27, gsomix, van51 , lisitsyn ^ | 21:33 |
van51 | hmm on one hand I'd prefer 11 UTC but on the other hand I feel sorry for pickle27 | 21:33 |
van51 | so I'll vote for both :) | 21:33 |
@sonney2k | vgorbat, well you don't have too | 21:33 |
pickle27 | vote 19 UTC | 21:33 |
van51 | pickle27: it's your lucky day :p | 21:36 |
pickle27 | van51, :) | 21:36 |
vgorbat | sonney2k: I'll try UTC 19.00, but can't promise | 21:43 |
vgorbat | good night | 21:45 |
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@sonney2k | lisitsyn, please check whether I forgot someone (I've send the email in private once more) | 21:52 |
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@lisitsyn | sonney2k: van51 | 21:53 |
van51 | why do you keep forgetting me? :P | 21:54 |
van51 | it started with HeikoS yesterday.. | 21:54 |
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@lisitsyn | van51: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=__DrJI7mTHQ | 21:55 |
@sonney2k | must be this german attitude again | 21:57 |
@sonney2k | van51, that and that you didn't send me an email to my shogun-toolbox.org address but to my work address I dont' have access too atm | 21:58 |
van51 | lisitsyn: mysteryyy hehe | 21:59 |
van51 | sonney2k: hmm that makes a bit sense | 22:00 |
van51 | sonney2k: would you like an empty email now? | 22:00 |
@sonney2k | van51, yes! | 22:00 |
@sonney2k | van51, and no idea if you have seen oliviers email? | 22:00 |
@sonney2k | but you really should get into things | 22:00 |
van51 | I've seen it | 22:00 |
van51 | and replied | 22:00 |
@sonney2k | olivier is kind of a rock star ... well quoc to :D | 22:01 |
van51 | actually I will forward my reply to you | 22:01 |
van51 | instead of an empty email | 22:01 |
@sonney2k | yeah please keep me in the loop | 22:01 |
van51 | sonney2k: sent | 22:01 |
van51 | cool, hope some of that rock star-ness will rub off on me | 22:02 |
@sonney2k | van51, we have to think about some cool applications already now | 22:03 |
van51 | sonney2k: like for examples or suggestions? | 22:04 |
@sonney2k | van51, yeah some real application for that... | 22:05 |
@sonney2k | otherwise we have some cool algorithms that just sit there and rot | 22:05 |
@sonney2k | b'cause no one knows what cool stuff you can do with them | 22:05 |
gsomix | sonney2k, hm, I have realized that DynArray is not very useful for rolling buffer: it's not resizable and indexed with respect to the data, not the beginning of a block of memory | 22:06 |
van51 | sonney2k: I get what you're saying | 22:07 |
@sonney2k | van51, we had that with the streamingfeatures that were written 2 gsoc's ago | 22:07 |
van51 | they weren't used? | 22:08 |
van51 | have you managed to counter that? | 22:09 |
@sonney2k | van51, we really need something fancy... like upload your text document and it tells you who has written it or sth | 22:09 |
@sonney2k | van51, or upload some part of the linux kernel source code and it will tell you who wrote it or sth | 22:09 |
@sonney2k | no they just sit there and I don't think people use them but who knows | 22:10 |
@sonney2k | so we really need catchy examples | 22:10 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, errm why not? | 22:11 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, you don't have to resize it at all | 22:11 |
@sonney2k | but yes you could create some extra class doing that all in some char* rolling_buffer thing | 22:13 |
gsomix | sonney2k, so only one thing from DynArray that in needed in rolling buffer is array. | 22:13 |
gsomix | *in needed | 22:13 |
van51 | sonney2k: ok.. I like your ideas and I understand why a good example/demo is important | 22:13 |
van51 | sonney2k: btw the referenced on the hashing idea are the same as in the fast food one? | 22:14 |
van51 | references* | 22:15 |
@sonney2k | van51, something simple would be to tell whether a text is from a news article or certain types of books | 22:15 |
@sonney2k | van51, errm | 22:15 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, yes only the array | 22:15 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, so you could as well use SGVector<char> | 22:16 |
gsomix | sonney2k, ok | 22:17 |
@sonney2k | van51, and ask me anything about dotfeatures - I wrote them... | 22:17 |
@lisitsyn | sonney2k: do you think it will help with sparse features? | 22:18 |
@lisitsyn | I mean why to increase dim of sparse features | 22:18 |
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@sonney2k | lisitsyn, what exactly? | 22:21 |
@sonney2k | you mean dot features in general? | 22:21 |
@lisitsyn | sonney2k: I mean with texts | 22:21 |
@lisitsyn | they are usually sparse | 22:21 |
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@sonney2k | lisitsyn, well if you work on the original text document you can embed the text immediately | 22:22 |
@sonney2k | for training that might not be the best thing you can do (only for online learning) | 22:23 |
@sonney2k | because the sparse representation is usually more memory efficient | 22:24 |
@sonney2k | but hashing for sure even helps for that | 22:24 |
@lisitsyn | yeah true | 22:25 |
@sonney2k | gsomix, looking forward to a PR | 22:30 |
* sonney2k off | 22:30 | |
gsomix | sonney2k, ok | 22:30 |
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