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| osho | is anyone around for question? | 03:32 |
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| hushell1 | sonney2k: Sorry I was away for a meeting with supervisors, the meeting is UTC 19:00 tomorrow? | 04:24 |
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| foulwall | ping sonney2k | 05:32 |
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| votjakovr | Hi everyone! Sorry, I missed yesterday. Are we going to have a meeting today? | 06:28 |
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| hushell1 | votjakovr: I think so, but I don't know it's UTC 11:00 or UTC 19:00 | 06:51 |
| votjakovr | hushell1: Ok, thanks. I can join both at 11:00 and 19:00. | 07:00 |
| foulwall | Hi, hushell1 | 08:15 |
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| hushell | hey, foulwall | 08:23 |
| foulwall | hushell: huh, I found you're chinese | 08:23 |
| hushell | foulwall: :) nice to meet you | 08:23 |
| foulwall | hushell: nice to meet you :) | 08:23 |
| hushell | foulwall: I am a bit busy on writing :( we could talk later | 08:24 |
| foulwall | hushell: ok | 08:24 |
| hushell | foulwall: have fun | 08:24 |
| @sonney2k | good morning foulwall | 08:28 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, I've seen you have a blog too? Is it OK if I connect you to shogun toolbox planet? | 08:28 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: ok | 08:29 |
| @sonney2k | hushell yes today and good luck with your paper! | 08:29 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, did you think about how to structure the code? | 08:30 |
| hushell | sonney2k: thanks! As you predicted, I will have to fight until last min | 08:31 |
| foulwall | I'm now modifying the 'argument' panel , I think the panel can be defined in the .py files, only have to provide the label and the type of input. | 08:32 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, you are live http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun! | 08:32 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: thanks | 08:33 |
| foulwall | I have seperated the messy template into a general framework and little modules, and sent a pr already. I'm doing the next step seperation | 08:35 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: There's two slashes here in the plannet page. You are here: planet / / shogun | 08:42 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, hmmhh if you have time check shogun-web and fix this bug | 08:44 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, nice | 08:44 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: ok | 08:45 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, I have to go now but will have a look asap | 08:45 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: cu | 08:45 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: yes looks fine | 08:58 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: maybe you can generalize further - I mean each demo could be in one .py file | 08:58 |
| sonne|work | so you could have some global variables describing the demo or so | 08:59 |
| sonne|work | and some super class that could set these common properties | 08:59 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: I'll have a try of that, but first I'll organize the argument input section. | 09:00 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: foulwall :master * 367ba23 / / (9 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/367ba230faae40a509d9c86a50cd388f58290ad1 | 09:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: Seperate the messy template to little modules | 09:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * a3ddf35 / / (9 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/a3ddf3538559289d3220add81ed37a0ed545fe2c | 09:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: Merge pull request #4 from foulwall/refractor | 09:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: | 09:01 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun-demo: Seperate the messy template to little modules | 09:01 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: maybe to get the picture | 09:01 |
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| sonne|work | foulwall: there might be a couple of methods to solve the same thing | 09:01 |
| sonne|work | e.g. binary classification | 09:01 |
| sonne|work | you will have binary svm (via libsvm) | 09:01 |
| sonne|work | binary svm (via svmlight) | 09:02 |
| sonne|work | etc etc | 09:02 |
| sonne|work | to it might make sense to build a hierarchy to re-use common blocks | 09:02 |
| foulwall | I see~ | 09:02 |
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| foulwall | sonne|work: I see | 09:07 |
| @lisitsyn | hey votjakovr | 09:10 |
| @lisitsyn | hey all | 09:10 |
| @lisitsyn | :) | 09:11 |
| @lisitsyn | votjakovr: I am just curious if you have some plan for next weeks | 09:11 |
| votjakovr | lisitsyn: Hi, yep :) The main goal is to finish polishing existing GPR and discuss architecture of GPC before the 17th of June. I'll post my future plans in more details in my blog, which i'm setting up currently. And I'll send a link on my blog in mailing list in introduction theme. | 09:25 |
| @lisitsyn | hushell: hey | 09:27 |
| @lisitsyn | votjakovr: yasno! | 09:30 |
| votjakovr | lisitsyn: kak to tak :) | 09:32 |
| @lisitsyn | votjakovr: sonne|work knows basics of russian btw | 09:35 |
| @lisitsyn | :D | 09:35 |
| @lisitsyn | and runglish, I made him an expert in runglish | 09:36 |
| votjakovr | lisitsyn: ha-ha, it's good :) | 09:37 |
| hushell | hey lisitsyn nice to see you | 09:38 |
| @lisitsyn | hushell: I am curious what is your plan for next weeks too :) | 09:39 |
| votjakovr | lisitsyn: but i know some phrases in german from Rammstein songs and german class in school , like: wir beginnen unsere lektion :) | 09:42 |
| @lisitsyn | votjakovr: hah yes lets talk rammstein songs to sonne|work then | 09:44 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: mein hertz brennt! | 09:44 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: du hast | 09:44 |
| @lisitsyn | links zu drei vier! | 09:45 |
| votjakovr | :D | 09:46 |
| hushell | lisitsyn: I have discuss this with Patrick. I am going to have a detail design of classes and functions first, this could be done by next week. My first goal of the project is finish a simple CRF framework, so I also need to reference other CRF lib, otherwise my code definitely creepy :) | 09:48 |
| hushell | anyway, a lot of prepare ... | 09:48 |
| hushell | crappy, used a wrong word | 09:53 |
| sonne|work | haha | 10:10 |
| @lisitsyn | super_duper_gsomix | 10:14 |
| @lisitsyn | haha | 10:14 |
| @lisitsyn | wtf | 10:14 |
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| votjakovr | lisitsyn, sonne|work: Btw, what is the main topic of today's meeting? | 10:16 |
| hushell | always bad in typing :p | 10:16 |
| @lisitsyn | votjakovr: vodka | 10:17 |
| sonne|work | votjakovr: that and just what we expect from you and mentors in general / important dates | 10:17 |
| hushell | is UTC 19:00 right? | 10:18 |
| sonne|work | hushell: yes | 10:18 |
| hushell | nice, gotta sleep now, CU later | 10:19 |
| sonne|work | I am sorry foulwall, votjakovr - this certainly is not your timezone | 10:19 |
| hushell | have a nice day | 10:19 |
| sonne|work | foulwall, votjakovr just read the irc logs tomorrow and then ask here again if you have questions | 10:19 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: never mind | 10:20 |
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| foulwall | sonne|work: I'll be coding till 3.00 am | 10:20 |
| sonne|work | we will do the next one to suit you better | 10:20 |
| sonne|work | puh | 10:20 |
| votjakovr | iglesiasg: Congratulations with pushing rights :) | 10:20 |
| @iglesiasg | votjakovr: thank you! | 10:21 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: vodka | 10:21 |
| votjakovr | sonne|work: I'll join meeting. It's just 2 am in my area :) | 10:21 |
| @iglesiasg | for everyone | 10:21 |
| @lisitsyn | what's the weather in le barnaule votjakovr? | 10:22 |
| sonne|work | in this case I have to prepare well. it is not my intention to steal your sleep | 10:22 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: las barnaulos never sleeps | 10:22 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: it might be that I get interrupted. In this case you have to take over | 10:23 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: ok I'll get drunk | 10:23 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: we all know that you can code and type faster when you are drunk | 10:24 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: so get in shape! | 10:24 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: alrdleady | 10:25 |
| votjakovr | lisitsyn: it's still crappy :( | 10:25 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: you can hardly type, so you could use more! | 10:27 |
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| * sonne|work gets into horizontal coding position | 10:28 | |
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| foulwall | rammstein, cool | 10:35 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: I've talked to cheng ( http://ong-home.my/ ) he is timezone wise slightly closer to you so I've added him as a co-mentor when I am not around | 10:46 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: ok! | 10:47 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: is he always on irc? | 10:51 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: no you will have to make meetings with him first by email if you want to talk to him | 10:52 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: ok | 10:53 |
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| sonne|work | foulwall: oh I see cheng just emailed you - nice :) | 11:04 |
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| thoralf | Hey there. | 11:06 |
| sonne|work | thoralf: hey | 11:12 |
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| thoralf | sonne|work: I had a small issue with ./configure: It did not detect the gmock framework, which had been installed properly (ubuntu package google-mock). | 11:36 |
| thoralf | sonne|work: The check for /usr/local/gmock has been nested to deep -- see the pull request. | 11:36 |
| sonne|work | wiking: you have a customer ^ | 11:39 |
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| osho | iam trying to seek an answer for the query? i tried mailing list but either it bounced or no reply | 12:01 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: where? | 12:01 |
| @iglesiasg | osho: what problem is it? | 12:01 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking: the gmock PR I think | 12:02 |
| osho | i am trying to use WeightedDegreePositionKernel with Shift | 12:02 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/1133 | 12:02 |
| @wiking | ubuntu gmock package is fucked | 12:02 |
| sonne|work | osho: did you subscribe to the mailinglist? | 12:02 |
| osho | and even though i think i am setting it right...it fails in numpy-swig to c++ | 12:03 |
| osho | yeah... | 12:03 |
| @wiking | who's Open | 12:03 |
| @wiking | tklein23 | 12:03 |
| @wiking | ? | 12:03 |
| sonne|work | osho: when did you send the email? | 12:03 |
| @iglesiasg | osho: how does it fail? | 12:03 |
| osho | 2 days back | 12:03 |
| sonne|work | wiking: thoralf | 12:03 |
| osho | here is the mail chopped... | 12:03 |
| sonne|work | osho: sure you subscribed? | 12:03 |
| @wiking | thoralf: you are wrong :D | 12:04 |
| osho | yeah will try again .. | 12:04 |
| osho | let me see if i can paste my mail here in parts | 12:04 |
| osho | I would really appreciate a feedback or help. I have regulatory region in DNA sequences, and was trying to use WeightedDegreePositionStringKernel. I looked at the constructor documentation and wanted a degree=8 and shift=3. I created kernel like | 12:04 |
| osho | from numpy import zeros,ones,float64,int32 shift_vector = ones(len(fm_train_dna[0]),dtype=int32) weight_vector = ones(len(fm_train_dna[0]), dtype=float64) degree=8 cachesize=500 kernel=WeightedDegreePositionStringKernel(cachesize,weight_vector,degree,0,shift_vector,3,1) kernel.init(feats_train,feats_train) | 12:04 |
| osho | it fails | 12:04 |
| osho | The script throws error at constructor saying kernel=WeightedDegreePositionStringKernel(cachesize,weight_vector,degree,0,shift_vector,3,1) NotImplementedError: Wrong number or type of arguments for overloaded function 'new_WeightedDegreePositionStringKernel'. | 12:05 |
| osho | I think it should match exactly with CWeightedDegreePositionStringKernel(int32_t size, float64_t * weights, int32_t degree, int32_t max_mismatch, int32_t * shift, int32_t shift_len, int32_t mkl_stepsize = 1 ) | 12:05 |
| osho | any help appreciated .. | 12:06 |
| @lisitsyn | argh | 12:06 |
| @lisitsyn | osho: I recognize the error | 12:06 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: votjakovr: anyone has some time? | 12:07 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: ahh you do your thesis stuff :) | 12:07 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn: to look at osho's error? | 12:07 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn: yep | 12:07 |
| @lisitsyn | int32_t * shift, int32_t shift_len | 12:08 |
| @lisitsyn | that's the cause | 12:08 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn: aah it shouldn't be int32_t* I understand | 12:09 |
| @iglesiasg | SGVector instead | 12:09 |
| @lisitsyn | yes | 12:09 |
| @lisitsyn | same with weights | 12:09 |
| osho | anything i have to do? | 12:10 |
| @iglesiasg | osho: that needs to be patched in the C++ code I believe | 12:10 |
| @lisitsyn | osho: I don't think you'd like to mess with that :) | 12:10 |
| osho | :-) | 12:10 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn: it shouldn't be hard to patch though, right | 12:11 |
| @lisitsyn | osho: I am running out of time now but I can fix it tonight | 12:11 |
| @wiking | thoralf: there's your answer in the PR | 12:11 |
| @wiking | it's not going to be accepted | 12:11 |
| @wiking | thoralf: you'll *need* gmock source | 12:11 |
| osho | ok i will try to subscribe again with mail list and send so that it would be useful for others | 12:12 |
| @lisitsyn | osho: yes thanks | 12:12 |
| osho | the weird thig is i get emails from the list | 12:12 |
| osho | but when i send it doesnt go through | 12:13 |
| osho | anyways will try again | 12:13 |
| @wiking | btw do we have a decision on the gsoc students? :) | 12:15 |
| @wiking | and wtf should i do with multiple machines (see baggingmachine) | 12:15 |
| @lisitsyn | wiking: http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/pokemon-blue-version/b/b2/Slowpoke.gif | 12:15 |
| @lisitsyn | !!! | 12:15 |
| @lisitsyn | wiking: 1) yes two days ago 2) discuss may be | 12:16 |
| @wiking | lisitsyn: i thin i should check mailing list then | 12:16 |
| @wiking | :D | 12:16 |
| @wiking | lisitsyn: discuss! NOW *) | 12:16 |
| @lisitsyn | wiking: ahh not now please | 12:17 |
| @lisitsyn | I am railroading | 12:17 |
| @wiking | yeah congratz to all of your GSOCers | 12:20 |
| @wiking | ;) | 12:20 |
| sonne|work | http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/39/39218/39218_3.jpg | 12:20 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: soooooooo, what shoudl we do about clone machine ?:) | 12:20 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: elaborate :D | 12:20 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: what is it? | 12:20 |
| sonne|work | wiking: don't clone for now just do it serial for the time being. Heiko & lambday are doing a framework that you can use later for parallel stuff | 12:21 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: my kids in training ;-) | 12:21 |
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| @wiking | sonne|work: serial? :) | 12:22 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: no i mean i need n clones for each maof a given machine | 12:23 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: even if i dont do parallel | 12:23 |
| sonne|work | wiking: well assume you get the machine as object | 12:23 |
| sonne|work | then you don't need to clone | 12:23 |
| sonne|work | why? | 12:23 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: because i need ot classify with it after the train | 12:24 |
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| @wiking | and classification is a voting scheme | 12:24 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: so the only way to do this atm actually | 12:24 |
| @wiking | is to train a one machine | 12:24 |
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| @wiking | save the model | 12:24 |
| @wiking | reset the machine | 12:24 |
| @wiking | train again and save again | 12:24 |
| @wiking | do this n times | 12:24 |
| @wiking | and when classification is needed (why else would you do bagging :P) | 12:25 |
| sonne|work | wiking: yes... | 12:25 |
| @wiking | then you need to deserialize each machine | 12:25 |
| @wiking | and classify with them | 12:25 |
| @wiking | right? :) | 12:25 |
| @wiking | this is doable of course | 12:25 |
| @wiking | but a lot of waste of resource ;P | 12:25 |
| @wiking | that's why we would need clone machine to be able to have all those machines in memory | 12:26 |
| @wiking | and not on disk | 12:26 |
| thoralf | wiking: Okay, thanks. | 12:40 |
| thoralf | wiking: So why do you check for /usr/include/gmock anyway? | 12:41 |
| thoralf | wiking: If someone has the source, then the includes can be found in the same directory. ;) | 12:42 |
| @wiking | thoralf: because we are hoping | 12:44 |
| @wiking | thoralf: that distros will fix this the same way as it's fixed with gtest packages | 12:45 |
| @wiking | thoralf: headers are in /usr/include/gtest | 12:45 |
| @wiking | while the source is under /usr/src | 12:45 |
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| @iglesiasg | I just got a mail about free private GitHub repos: https://github.com/edu | 13:16 |
| sonne|work | iglesiasg: but what for? all we do is open source | 13:21 |
| @iglesiasg | sonne|work: not for shogun-ing, but maybe someone wants it for his/her private stuff | 13:22 |
| @iglesiasg | there were already available with bitbucket though | 13:22 |
| thoralf | iglesiasg: Thanks for telling. | 13:24 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: what? | 13:41 |
| @HeikoS | my uni is paying for this | 13:41 |
| @HeikoS | and its a pain to get those | 13:41 |
| @iglesiasg | HeikoS: haha | 13:41 |
| @iglesiasg | then thank your uni on my behalf please :) | 13:41 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: ah well | 13:41 |
| @HeikoS | this is not for research | 13:41 |
| @iglesiasg | HeikoS: just students I think | 13:42 |
| @HeikoS | yeah for courses and stuff | 13:42 |
| @iglesiasg | and there is something about organization accounts as well | 13:42 |
| thoralf | I'm having issues with two unit tests: classifier_svmlight_string_features_precomputed_kernel, library_map. Both of them are complaining about "undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.2.5'" | 13:42 |
| thoralf | Even though the configure script detects posix threads properly. | 13:42 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: but actually, I will request this once I am a phd student :) | 13:42 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: weird, maybe lisitsyn know whats causing this? | 13:43 |
| thoralf | I saw in the archive, that this problem is known, but did not find a solution. | 13:43 |
| @iglesiasg | HeikoS: ;) do you know something about it btw? I mean any position you are applying for or so | 13:43 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: I got a place and funding, starts in sept :) | 13:43 |
| @iglesiasg | HeikoS: oh cool! congrats | 13:43 |
| @HeikoS | thanks :) | 13:44 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: btw welcome to the shognu core! very nice | 13:44 |
| @iglesiasg | HeikoS: thanks! | 13:44 |
| @lisitsyn | thoralf: I actually have seen this error once | 13:44 |
| @lisitsyn | well it may be missing -lpthread but not sure it should be there | 13:45 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: I saw that this issue has been discussed in this channel about february this year. http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/contact/irclog/2013-02-09/ and http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/contact/irclog/2013-02-13/ | 13:47 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: -lpthread is indeed missing when compiling the tests. | 13:47 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: But it's there when compiling the library. | 13:47 |
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| alexlovesdata | now it is 11:53 UTC? | 13:53 |
| votjakovr | thoralf: Hi, I just added -lpthread to LIBS_ADD in Makefile for libshogun examples and tests are compiled well after that. But I'm not sure that this is a good solution of the problem. | 13:56 |
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| gsomix | hello | 14:00 |
| votjakovr | alexlovesdata: Hi, I think it might be useful: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=1440 | 14:03 |
| thoralf | votjakovr: Thanks, at least it's working. | 14:09 |
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| thoralf | lisitsyn: LIBS_ADD in examples/undocumented/libshogun/Makefile simply misses a -pthread | 14:13 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: Since this file is not auto-generated (am I right?), I'm wondering why this only fails on a few machines. | 14:14 |
| @lisitsyn | thoralf: yes, it is not auto-generated | 14:17 |
| @lisitsyn | some compiler differencies or so | 14:17 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: Do you think it would hurt to add this option? | 14:18 |
| thoralf | lisitsyn: (in the git repo) | 14:18 |
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| @lisitsyn | thoralf: no should not really hurt | 14:26 |
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| sonne|work | hey gsomix? how is the ringbuffer doing? | 14:48 |
| gsomix | sonne|work, working/testing. just have returned from university | 14:48 |
| sonne|work | gsomix: excellent :) | 14:49 |
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| alexlovesdata | thx vitjakovr | 14:55 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: ping | 14:56 |
| @HeikoS | pong | 14:56 |
| @HeikoS | :) | 14:56 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: any ideas how to go ahead with machine cloneing? :) | 14:56 |
| @HeikoS | wiking, yes parameter framework | 14:59 |
| @wiking | elaborate :) | 15:00 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: so every instance has parameters ergistered | 15:04 |
| @HeikoS | so one can just iterate over them and copy contents to another instance | 15:04 |
| @HeikoS | for this, TParameter would need a clone method | 15:04 |
| @HeikoS | for this, one needs to distinguish all the cases in there | 15:04 |
| @HeikoS | which is very similar to the equals method I wrote( which is not yet finished) | 15:05 |
| @HeikoS | so have a look at that | 15:05 |
| @HeikoS | so we only have to write code once | 15:05 |
| @HeikoS | and all classes get a clone | 15:05 |
| @wiking | mmmm | 15:08 |
| @wiking | checking | 15:08 |
| @iglesiasg | nice patch from Patrick :) | 15:31 |
| gsomix | gmail interface it too hard for me. it's seems, I again sent a letter to the wrong place. :( | 15:44 |
| sonne|work | iglesiasg: then merge it! | 15:51 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: hah yes what are you waiting for ;) | 15:52 |
| @iglesiasg | sonne|work: thanks! I hesitated a bit | 15:52 |
| @iglesiasg | you know, first patch to merge, didn't want to screw :P | 15:52 |
| sonne|work | :P | 15:52 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: push da button | 15:52 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Patrick Pletscher :develop * 8caad56 / src/INSTALL: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/8caad56572cd0c0fd9aa4f9cdf7876d7b9062cd9 | 15:54 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: fixing typos and revert to svr_regression | 15:54 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 9ace1c2 / .gitignore,src/INSTALL: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9ace1c206f257dd73f388e86efc4bb6af5ca328e | 15:54 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 15:54 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: INSTALL fixes | 15:54 |
| gsomix | iglesiasg, congrats. :) | 15:54 |
| @iglesiasg | gsomix: thanks | 15:54 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :develop * 6790584 / src/shogun/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/67905844935dd9d9ed8bedc8585a82f289457f1b | 19:49 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1040 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test cmdline_static] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1040 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 20:03 |
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| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, enjoying to crash shogun again huh? | 20:14 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: hah! | 20:15 |
| lisitsyn | uhhkay | 20:16 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Sergey Lisitsyn's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/7640800 | 20:41 |
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| @sonney2k | everyone grab a beer! party starts in 5 mins | 20:55 |
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| gsomix | sonney2k, there is no beer. :( | 20:56 |
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| @sonney2k | gsomix, no problem vodka will do! | 20:56 |
| pickle27 | hello everyone! | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, good morning! | 20:56 |
| @iglesiasg | hello people | 20:56 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: appologies, but I cannot actively attend the meeting today, will read along however | 20:56 |
| foulwall_ | hello~ | 20:58 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I am a bit out of agenda | 20:58 |
| lisitsyn | do you have one? | 20:58 |
| @sonney2k | sure | 20:58 |
| @sonney2k | master of detester | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | disaster | 20:59 |
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| @sonney2k | \lambda y! | 20:59 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I already fixed it | 20:59 |
| lisitsyn | lamb day | 20:59 |
| lisitsyn | ;) | 20:59 |
| lambday | sonney2k lisitsyn: hello | 20:59 |
| lambday | :D | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall_, still awake? | 21:00 |
| @sonney2k | votjakovr, and you too? | 21:00 |
| foulwall_ | sonney2k: yeah~ | 21:00 |
| hushell | Hello guys | 21:00 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall_, it is like what 3 am now? | 21:00 |
| votjakovr | sonney2k: yep, i'm here. | 21:00 |
| van51 | hi all | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | Alright then lets start! Good morning, afternoon, evening and night everyone! | 21:01 |
| lambday | hi van51 :) | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | Welcome to our kick off meeting. | 21:01 |
| foulwall_ | yep | 21:01 |
| hushell | foulwall_: you are also late person | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | Congrats students for being accepted. We are very happy to work with you. | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | This year we have a new record 8 students in 8 timezones so apologies to flouwall, votjakovr for having to suffer next time we will arrange sth more suitable. | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | First I would like to thank you all for your hard work even before GSoC started. We are happy to have you in the team and you were selected because we know you will have no problems finishing the tasks with 100% success while even enjoying what you do :-) | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | BTW if anyone has any question. Please interrupt me and ask it at any time. | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | Nevertheless, some of us {mentors,students} participate for the first time so let me briefly state how things work - lets start with the timeline: | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | - Official GSoc starts June 17 | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | - On August 2 Mentors need to send mid-term evaluations to google (*very important* - students won't get money otherwise) and students need to send in evaluations too. | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | - September 27 end of GSoC - Mentors need to send final evaluations to google (again *important*) - and students too + upload code to code.google.com. | 21:03 |
| @sonney2k | Just check the official timeline https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 if you have concerns | 21:03 |
| @sonney2k | Alright now for some general comment | 21:03 |
| @sonney2k | Please avoid any private communication to the extend possible, i.e., discuss all issues openly on the mailinglist or here in IRC. | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | If you ask yourself why this is not the way open source projects work | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | All development and even planning is done in the open. | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | This is particularly important here because not all mentors/students can be experts in everything. | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | For example a mentor might not know about certain data structures that one could use (that are already in shogun). | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | The advantage of asking in public is that other students/mentors can help out - | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | potentially even more timely (8 timezones covered!) than your mentor and we are working *together* in this project so there will be synergies. | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | We had that last year for the structured output project, but I guess sth similar will happen this year again. | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | And again we cover enough timezones so you should never be alone - which makes it much more fun too | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | Now what is expected from mentors: | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | - Guide your students like any PhD/Master student. Run a tight ship in the first few weeks to get things on track and then things will work w/o a lot of intervention. | 21:06 |
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| @sonney2k | - Try to keep students happy (answer quickly, monitor happiness). | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | - Participate (in relevant) public discussions. | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | - Review student patches at github (give comments) - technical review / coding style etc will be done by mostly lisitsyn, iglesiasg, HeikoS and me. Once you are satisfied notify any of us to actually do the merge. | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | - you have to evaluate your students (2 times, midterm, end of GSoC). | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | this is rather cheap (just some forms to click and can be done in 5-10 mins) | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | - now a question | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | Who wants to go to Mentor summit @Google (October 19 & 20)? Say now or write- me an email. | 21:08 |
| lisitsyn | if there is no one I do | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | - For further questions there is the mentor manual https://flossmanuals.net/gsocmentoring/ | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, I recall HeikoS would want to go too. And who knows maybe chap wouldn't mind to party too :D | 21:09 |
| @sonney2k | Alright mentors - any questions so far? | 21:09 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I will have visa troubles anyway so if HeikoS wants I don't mind | 21:09 |
| @sonney2k | az_de, patrickp, chap ? | 21:10 |
| patrickp | well, where would it be? Any of the google offices? | 21:10 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, I am sure you and a few more can go. | 21:10 |
| @sonney2k | patrickp, yes mountain view | 21:10 |
| patrickp | but only mountain view? | 21:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: ? is that just refund of 2 slots | 21:10 |
| lisitsyn | I mean can we send a few mentors there? | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, 2 mentors but I've met the orange guys (from orangle ml toolbox) and they were 4 or 5 :D | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | though they were working on some grand proposal most of the time... | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | anyways further questions? | 21:12 |
| lisitsyn | oh I see okay lets see how many do we want and ask carols | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | yeah decide for yourself early so we can ask early to ensure everyone could go. | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | OK then next topic: | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | What is expected from students! | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | - FIrst of all have fun with what you are doing and learn what you always wanted to learn. | 21:13 |
| @sonney2k | - Start early and stay in regular contact with your mentors in particular in the beginning. Students tell your mentor or me when you feel unhappy. We can adjust (and have done so in last GSoc's) the task to solve. | 21:13 |
| @sonney2k | (or tell lisitsyn or HeikoS or...) | 21:13 |
| @sonney2k | - If you intend to blog, tell me your blog url to add you to shogun planet. I've already added lambday and foulwalls blog to shogun planet http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun . | 21:14 |
| pickle27 | my blog is at kevinhughes.ca | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, ok noted will add you after the meeting | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | - While GSoC is running, students have to send weekly reports to the mailinglist (due every Monday). What is expected here are *very few* sentences. We want you to code not waste your and our time. If it takes you more than 5 minutes then it is not what we are looking for :) | 21:15 |
| @sonney2k | - During normal working hours students have to idle in IRC channel #shogun. | 21:16 |
| @sonney2k | - If you a planning to go on vacations, or be away for whatever reason (exams, ...) - no problem but please notify us *upfront*. | 21:16 |
| @sonney2k | - To pass mid-term you should write a summary (draft status) of your work that contains an overview, screenshot, main classes written, some nice example application - mentors help students to find some nice illustrative application. | 21:16 |
| @sonney2k | - To pass final this no longer should be drafty. | 21:16 |
| @sonney2k | - Further information can be found in https://flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ | 21:17 |
| @sonney2k | - I am sorry to say this, but please note that based on experience from last year we will have to be very strict about weekly reports, that students stay in IRC during their working hours and the work summary and fail students. | 21:17 |
| @sonney2k | - That said, you are pretty free to work on what you like and vacations and almost anything is possible. But please talk to us. | 21:18 |
| @sonney2k | - If you have questions, you can ask wiking, lisitsyn, HeikoS, iglesiasg - they all were (successful) GSoC students in previous years. | 21:18 |
| @sonney2k | Does anyone have any questions regarding to that? | 21:18 |
| @sonney2k | Or concerns or find this unfair? | 21:18 |
| lambday | I'm not sure about what you meant by normal working hours... we all are from different timezones | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | You can also msg or email me in private | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, your working hours | 21:19 |
| lisitsyn | lambday: well your working hours | 21:19 |
| lambday | okay | 21:19 |
| lisitsyn | it is not going to be tracked for sure | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, and yes you can choose the time zone you want to work :D | 21:19 |
| lambday | okay :D | 21:19 |
| pickle27 | okay I was going to ask that too but that makes sense | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, even work, sleep, party, work, sleep party or whatever rotation scheme fits you best | 21:20 |
| lisitsyn | but we just need to know you are doing the work you intended to work | 21:20 |
| lisitsyn | yeah I had to virtually change my timezone | 21:20 |
| lisitsyn | when working with cwidmer | 21:20 |
| @sonney2k | and besides it is much more fun when you are not alone and someone in the channel can talk to you | 21:20 |
| pickle27 | I guess I'll mention now that I am travelling to a few conferences and I will be getting back to my home on June 17th right when GSoC starts | 21:20 |
| pickle27 | I'll still be working and preparing but my IRC ideling might be a bit spotty | 21:21 |
| pickle27 | until I am back | 21:21 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: good you noticed that ;) | 21:21 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, thanks for letting us know | 21:21 |
| @sonney2k | more questions? | 21:21 |
| hushell | what if the original schedule is delayed? | 21:22 |
| lisitsyn | hushell: that's ok | 21:22 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, we will work something out. | 21:22 |
| pickle27 | for the email updates should we settle a UTC based deadline? Monday is a bit arbitrary | 21:22 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, Usually there are unforeseen obstacles that are not your fault. | 21:22 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, timezone of your choice monday | 21:23 |
| pickle27 | sonney2k, okay | 21:23 |
| @sonney2k | but not already now during official GSoC | 21:23 |
| pickle27 | yup | 21:23 |
| hushell | I will work hard and try not to fail anyway :) | 21:23 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, I don't expect anyone here to fail. You all already showed that you can do much more than we ever dreamt of | 21:24 |
| lisitsyn | hushell: why do you think of it? if you have doubts we should update the schedule | 21:24 |
| @sonney2k | so if no one runs away from us screaming | 21:24 |
| @sonney2k | there is no problem | 21:24 |
| hushell | I just ask the worst end. I am confident about my current plan | 21:25 |
| lisitsyn | alright | 21:25 |
| lambday | do our working hours have to be continuous, during official gsoc? | 21:25 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, well the only way to fail really is not to do work / no longer be around | 21:25 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, of course not | 21:25 |
| lambday | okay | 21:26 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, if you want you can sleep every 30 mins | 21:26 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1177 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed git] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1177 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 21:26 |
| lambday | :D | 21:26 |
| @sonney2k | well or whatever hobby you have | 21:26 |
| @iglesiasg | good timing shogun-buildbot :D | 21:27 |
| @sonney2k | More questions please! | 21:27 |
| lambday | actually I am a sysadm and I often get urgent calls from lab.. | 21:27 |
| hushell | sonney2k: that's easy :) But I should go far beyond | 21:27 |
| lambday | shouldn't be a problem then :) | 21:27 |
| @sonney2k | From last years experience: It is difficult to come up with some application / example that is fancy. | 21:28 |
| @sonney2k | So please already now start to think about it. Everyone can then present his idea for an example in the next meeting. | 21:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, lisitsyn - did I miss anything / does anything else come to your mind? | 21:29 |
| lisitsyn | no that sounds complete | 21:29 |
| @HeikoS | nope | 21:29 |
| @sonney2k | Any further questions from anyone? | 21:29 |
| pickle27 | I got one! | 21:29 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: shoot please | 21:29 |
| @sonney2k | shoot! | 21:29 |
| pickle27 | so my co mentor is lisitsyn but I don't know the IRC handle for Andreas | 21:30 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: az_de I guess ;) | 21:30 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, I guess az_de ? | 21:30 |
| pickle27 | thats what I was thinking too | 21:30 |
| pickle27 | okay | 21:30 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, but rather email him :D | 21:30 |
| az_de | yes, thats right | 21:30 |
| pickle27 | okay awesome! | 21:31 |
| lisitsyn | az_de: pickle27 we could have a quick chat afterwards then | 21:31 |
| az_de | I'm not so used to IRC | 21:31 |
| pickle27 | az_de, are you on the shogun mailing list? so we can keep our discussions in the open | 21:31 |
| @sonney2k | what lisitsyn just said. usually after meetings students and mentors meet and discuss plans (at least in previous years) | 21:31 |
| @sonney2k | or decide when to meet :) | 21:32 |
| @sonney2k | anyways any further question? | 21:32 |
| az_de | how does this work ? | 21:32 |
| patrickp | is there some form of wiki for designing a class or something? Or what do you use for this purpose? IRC seems a bit odd, and directly starting a cpp file maybe a bit premature... | 21:32 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: may be mention workshop? | 21:33 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, you did that last year ^ | 21:33 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: a wiki for lass design? | 21:33 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, indeed - anyone up to visit berlin this summer for the shogun ml workshop? | 21:33 |
| @iglesiasg | mm I don't recall doing that | 21:33 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, how did you do it last year? | 21:33 |
| patrickp | just some google docs or something | 21:33 |
| @iglesiasg | aaah ok, I think you are talking about the diagram | 21:34 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, sure | 21:34 |
| pickle27 | is there a deadline to sign up for the workshop? | 21:34 |
| lisitsyn | patrickp: well we don't have any specific way to do that - if you have ideas please suggest/use :) | 21:34 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: no | 21:34 |
| pickle27 | I might consider it! | 21:34 |
| @iglesiasg | I did some simple UML diagrams before starting to code | 21:34 |
| @sonney2k | az_de, well just talk and make a plan / or send what you have in mind... | 21:34 |
| @iglesiasg | it turned out to be pretty useful to discuss with my mentor | 21:34 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: az_de: please do "/join #shogun_bss" | 21:35 |
| patrickp | cool, just wanted to know whether there already exists something. Thanks | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | if we have noise here ;) | 21:35 |
| @iglesiasg | pickle27, hushell : this is the diagram I meant http://iglesiashogun.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/first-weekly-report-gsoc-2012/ | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | otherwise lets talk here | 21:35 |
| @iglesiasg | I used lucidchart for doing it | 21:35 |
| @sonney2k | patrickp, that's what you meant right? | 21:36 |
| patrickp | yes, looks good, thanks. | 21:36 |
| pickle27 | yeah thanks! | 21:36 |
| @sonney2k | ok then I think the only thing left to decide is when we meet next | 21:36 |
| hushell | iglesiasg: I had read it from your blog :D | 21:37 |
| @iglesiasg | patrickp: later when the coding time came, I drew inspiration from existing code | 21:37 |
| @sonney2k | (we should do so about once per month) | 21:37 |
| @sonney2k | I would say right after GSoC is officially started and pickle27 is back | 21:37 |
| @iglesiasg | hushell, patrickp : I take advantage to say that please feel free to make any re-design to the structured framework | 21:37 |
| @sonney2k | so June 18? | 21:37 |
| @iglesiasg | if anything looks weird, it may be that something is not really well designed | 21:38 |
| pickle27 | could we do the 19th? | 21:38 |
| @iglesiasg | nothing is set on stone :) | 21:38 |
| hushell | I also agree to start with a design and discuss in public | 21:38 |
| patrickp | iglesiasg: we'll look into it in the next weeks, i'm sure will contact you a couple of times :) | 21:38 |
| pickle27 | sonney2k, can we do the 19th? | 21:38 |
| hushell | since we have 2 weeks more before official start | 21:39 |
| @iglesiasg | patrickp: I am glad to discuss :) | 21:39 |
| @sonney2k | ok so how is June 19th say 15 UTC? | 21:39 |
| pickle27 | should work for me | 21:39 |
| patrickp | iglesiasg: great! | 21:39 |
| van51 | sounds good to me | 21:39 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, that would be 6am for you? | 21:39 |
| hushell | I should get up early once :) | 21:40 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall_, votjakovr ? | 21:40 |
| lambday | works for me too | 21:40 |
| foulwall_ | ok to me! | 21:40 |
| @sonney2k | az_de, ? | 21:40 |
| az_de | ok | 21:40 |
| lisitsyn | ok for me | 21:40 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, yep, it's fine | 21:40 |
| foulwall_ | thanks for not set at 3:00 am | 21:40 |
| votjakovr | sonney2k: ok | 21:40 |
| patrickp | looks good | 21:40 |
| @iglesiasg | it should be fine for me too | 21:40 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall_, I promised to let someone else suffer ;) | 21:41 |
| foulwall_ | :) | 21:41 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: although I suggest to set up a doogle again since some people could not attend this meeting, like Georg | 21:41 |
| @iglesiasg | doogle lol -> doodle | 21:41 |
| hushell | good name for a new company | 21:42 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, ok please do and send an email around | 21:42 |
| @sonney2k | hushell, if you want to get sued by 2 big companies :D | 21:42 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: ok | 21:42 |
| hushell | :D | 21:43 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, please do june 19,20,21 with UTC 13,14,15 | 21:44 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: ok | 21:44 |
| @sonney2k | alright! that is all from my side thanks everyone for attending! and lets have a nice summer together! | 21:44 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, thanks! | 21:45 |
| foulwall_ | sonney2k: thanks! | 21:45 |
| gsomix | so, let's drink a vodka! | 21:45 |
| lambday | thanks sonney2k | 21:45 |
| votjakovr | sonney2k: thanks :) | 21:45 |
| patrickp | thanks sonney2k for your efforts! | 21:45 |
| lambday | gsomix: I'm up for it :D | 21:45 |
| lisitsyn | thanks | 21:45 |
| patrickp | and all the others too, of course | 21:45 |
| pickle27 | looking forward to a great summer with everyone! | 21:45 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, no more vodka for me I emptied crates of beer already during that meeting | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #597 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed git] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/597 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 21:46 |
| gsomix | shogun-buildbot, dance | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | <(^.^<) | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | <(^.^)> | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | (>^.^)> | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | (7^.^)7 | 21:46 |
| shogun-buildbot | (>^.^<) | 21:46 |
| lambday | what else it can do!! :-o | 21:47 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, fail! | 21:47 |
| lambday | lol | 21:47 |
| pickle27 | haha | 21:47 |
| @sonney2k | looks like github has some trouble | 21:47 |
| foulwall_ | cu guys, too late~ sleeping | 21:50 |
| @sonney2k | good night foulwall_ ! | 21:50 |
| lambday | foulwall_: good night, man! | 21:50 |
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| @sonney2k | btw gsomix how is it going with your ringbuffer now! | 21:50 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, what's about work. there is preliminary version of circular buffer, but I need some time for integrate it with LineReader. | 21:51 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, ok cool just keep me in the loop | 21:52 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, I can send a PR if this is needed. | 21:53 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, btw, did you receive my introduction letter? | 21:53 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, you are on http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun | 21:55 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, no need to send a PR | 21:55 |
| pickle27 | sonney2k, does that automatically pull from my blog then? | 21:56 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I got asked about R static | 21:58 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: do we need to save features/kernels/classifiers independently? | 21:58 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, yes | 21:58 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, sorry what? | 21:58 |
| lisitsyn | hmm it seems no | 21:59 |
| pickle27 | sonney2k, okay I just blog about more than just shogun if that is okay | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, no nothing there yet - when did you send it? | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what happens when we load a classifier? | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | does it set ui_kernel? | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, sure. I do too. | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | pickle27, that's why it is planet | 21:59 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, 6 hours ago. | 21:59 |
| pickle27 | sonney2k, okay right on! | 21:59 |
| @iglesiasg | ok guys, see you later! | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, you cannot load/save a classifier in static | 22:00 |
| @iglesiasg | nice to see you all during the meeting :) | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: argh why do we keep it then :( | 22:00 |
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| az_de | ok bye , bye | 22:00 |
| hushell | Great meeting! Thanks guys! CU later | 22:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what's the status of R modular? | 22:03 |
| lisitsyn | iirc it was leaking memory | 22:03 |
| lisitsyn | but other to that - are there any issues? | 22:04 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, btw I had problem with mail before. | 22:04 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, when I tried to answer Kyle McQuisten got "it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain shogun-toolbox.org by mail.nn7.de" | 22:04 |
| gsomix | *I got | 22:05 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, well you can get the model parameters (like alpha/b for SVM) | 22:05 |
| @sonney2k | so you have a way of storing things | 22:05 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, can you forward that mail to me? | 22:06 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, introduction mail you mean? | 22:06 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: how hard would it be to implement that thing? | 22:06 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, no the error email | 22:07 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, yep | 22:07 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, hmmhh not so hard IMHO | 22:07 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: if something has kernel we load it and set to ui_kernel | 22:07 |
| lisitsyn | like that? | 22:07 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, done | 22:08 |
| @sonney2k | afk | 22:08 |
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| lisitsyn | wiking: I just found that 'DVOR' images from medical images recognition dataset | 22:14 |
| lisitsyn | sending it around to friends they are soooooooo happy :D | 22:14 |
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| vgorbati | lisitsyn: как думаешь, есть какой-то смысл пробовать имплементить этот алгоритм, или лучше сразу занятся чем-то более дельным? | 22:31 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: bahh :) | 22:32 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: what algorithm? the one you send me before? | 22:32 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: errr | 22:32 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: yes:) | 22:32 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: I don't know - it seems a bit too heuristic for me | 22:32 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: agree | 22:33 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: it depends on task though | 22:33 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: if you model random process you may use ARMA models or so | 22:34 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: yes, ARMA is a possibility | 22:36 |
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| lisitsyn | vgorbati: what is your data? time series? | 22:36 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: ARIMAX is actually better:) yes, time series | 22:37 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: what about implementing it here in shogun? | 22:38 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: another thing to implement:) There are already ANN's | 22:41 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: what sounds the most interesting for you?:) | 22:41 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: why for me :) | 22:42 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: lets focus the most interesting for you | 22:42 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn: for shogun I mean | 22:42 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, no just load the main classifier. it will then load everything inside itself. then you have to extract the stuff and set it to ui_kernel etc yes | 22:42 |
| lisitsyn | ahh shogun will eat anything | 22:42 |
| lisitsyn | vgorbati: the purpose of life is fun :) | 22:42 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yes that's what I mean | 22:44 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, and swig & R is in bad shape | 22:50 |
| @sonney2k | but try I mean suffer yourself | 22:50 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: uh that was easier that I thought | 22:54 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: 6 lines patch make it load kernel and features | 22:54 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :develop * b6336c9 / src/shogun/ui/GUIClassifier.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b6336c910aefdd484daa16758eb5c79b1a3099d5 | 22:59 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Check if kernel is set before classifying | 22:59 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :develop * 3841ef9 / src/shogun/ui/SGInterface.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3841ef93d7a09fea784c0a078b28f8813ea871cf | 22:59 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Obtain kernel and features after loading in cmdline interface | 22:59 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, I understand now - this is greylisting in action | 23:03 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, greylisting? something like blacklisting for spamers? :) | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, russian spammers :D | 23:09 |
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| iglesiasg | mmm it seems the doodle mail hasn't arrived yet to the list | 23:10 |
| iglesiasg | I sent it over an hour ago | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, same issue like gsomix I guess | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | I guess I have to whitelist google's servers | 23:11 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k: I was using @shogun-toolbox address | 23:11 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k: and the other mail I sent more or less at the same time arrived | 23:11 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #885 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/885 | 23:21 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, yes indeed I can see that - google is resending the mail from a different ip address | 23:22 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Sergey Lisitsyn's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/7645664 | 23:22 |
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| @sonney2k | so each time it does it we have the grey listing timeout | 23:22 |
| @sonney2k | until it uses a known IP again | 23:22 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k: aham ok I understand | 23:25 |
| iglesiasg | I thought google server -> gmail address | 23:25 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1178 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1178 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 23:35 |
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| gsomix | sonney2k, I plan to try Debian at this weekend | 23:51 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1179 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1179 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 23:57 |
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