IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2013-10-30

--- Log opened Wed Oct 30 00:00:03 2013
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@wikingok07:21
@wikingsorry07:21
@wikingguys07:21
@wikingwho ever are the core developers07:21
@wikingi'm shutting down your07:21
@wikingipython sessions07:21
@wikingcurrently one cannot create new ones07:21
@wikingas we ran out of memory07:21
@wikingbesser82: do something ;)07:23
@wikingno more resources on fatbot07:24
besser82wiking: on it  ;)07:24
besser82wiking: puiterwijk has taken nirik WIP, currently....07:24
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sonne|osxhey goat moaning!08:24
@wikingbesser82: r u using your container?08:24
sonne|osxwiking: no08:24
sonne|osxwoopsi08:24
sonne|osxnot enough memory to ..08:24
@wikingyeah...08:24
sonne|osxSorry, not enough free memory to start your container08:24
@wikingtrying to fix some stuff08:24
besser82wiking: currently not... u can purge it safely...08:25
sonne|osxwiking: well08:25
sonne|osx$ ps auxw | grep ipython | wc -l08:25
sonne|osx8308:25
sonne|osxno wonder...08:25
sonne|osxpoor fatbot08:25
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@wikingwe need to find out a way to stop container ... :S08:26
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sonne|osx$ ps auxw | grep ipython | wc -l08:27
sonne|osx8308:27
sonne|osxwiking: btw what does the the number of users in github mean?08:27
@wiking?08:28
@wikingwhere what?08:28
sonne|osxon fatbot08:28
sonne|osx$ ps auxw | grep ipython | wc -l08:28
sonne|osx8308:28
sonne|osxwiking: and on github08:29
sonne|osxapplications08:29
sonne|osxit says 9 users08:29
@wikingaaah08:29
sonne|osxis that in total 9 people logged in or currently08:29
@wikingthat 9 users has registered to cloud via github08:29
@wikingtotal08:29
sonne|osxwiking: we don't know how many via g+ right?08:29
sonne|osxwiking: or do we have any kind of stats for cloud.*08:30
@wikingsonne|osx: lemme check08:31
@wikingthere should be something about g+ as well08:31
@wikingbut i can tell u how many registered users there are all together atm08:31
sonne|osxwiking: and?08:31
@wikingjust a sec08:31
@wiking3108:35
sonne|osxwoah08:36
sonne|osxno wonder then08:36
@wikingbut i dont know how to handle timeouts08:36
@wikingas basically the whole interaction is in a different session (ipython)08:36
sonne|osxwiking: so we have tons of dead clients?08:36
@wikingsonne|osx: well we just have some containers that i dont know whether active or not08:37
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@wikingbesser82: do you still have the container running?08:46
@wikingbesser82: as in worst case what we can do is to mount up an nfs08:47
@wikingbesser82: container = fedora cloud instance08:47
@wikingbesser82: btw what was the amount of ram in it?08:49
sonne|workwiking: how does now shut down a container then?08:50
besser82wiking: I don't have the container running08:50
besser82wiking: 8 GB afaik08:51
besser82wiking: but I can request another 8GB if needed08:51
besser82wiking: I actually can request non-persistant storage in insane amounts as well08:52
@wikingsonne|work: well now i've added the logout button to request a docker container shutdown08:53
@wikingsonne|work: but i dont believe people will push that button so often08:53
@wiking;)08:53
@wikingbesser82: is it running now?08:53
besser82wiking: no, i'm logged in but it is not running08:54
sonne|workwiking: what does this mean - will it erase everything I did then?08:54
@wikingsonne|work: noup08:54
@wikingsonne|work: it's just shuts down the container08:54
sonne|workwiking: cool08:54
@wikingsonne|work: but it still exists...08:54
@wikingso whenever u log back in08:54
@wikingeverything will be there as u left it08:55
@wikingbesser82: what does it mean not running?08:55
sonne|workwiking: could we then `just' monitor if a client has 0 load for ~1hr or sth and then shut it down?08:55
@wikingbesser82: see u logged in again... if u dont use it plz logout as we really need the resources08:55
@wikingsonne|work: yeah that's what i was wondering about as well08:55
@wikingsonne|work: couldn't find yet a definitive solution for it08:56
@wikingbut trying08:56
besser82wiking: allright I will / not-running means: cluster tab shows "stopped"08:56
@wikingbesser82: hence we cannot connect to it now?08:56
@wikingright?08:56
besser82wiking: ???08:56
@wikingbesser82: to the fedora instance08:57
sonne|workwiking: or we put some time limit on every instance now forcing these shutdowns08:57
@wikingsonne|work: i guess from the cgroup stats we can find out a lot of thing... and create a heuristic to shutdown the container08:57
besser82actually you can, but there's nothing but some 1.5 gbytes free hdd and 8GB ram08:57
sonne|workwiking: I mean just put a limit of 1 hour for now08:57
@wikingbesser82: nfs?08:57
@wikingsonne|work: i think that should be feasible with cgroups08:58
besser82wiking: there's nothing but some 1.5 gbytes free hdd and 8GB ram08:58
@wikinghttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/cgroups08:58
besser82wiking: so you need some nfsclient, right?08:58
@wikingbesser82: yep08:58
@wikingsonne|work: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/cgroups08:58
besser82wiking: let me setup08:58
@wikingsonne|work: let's try to find a rule08:58
sonne|workwiking: even ulimit /limits.conf has a time limit08:59
besser82wiking: will be avail ~10:00 UTC08:59
sonne|workhmmhh actually cpu time limit08:59
@wikingsonne|work: docker uses cgroups08:59
sonne|workdon't see wall time08:59
sonne|workwiking: yeah but it says more flexible than limits.conf stuff08:59
@wikingsonne|work: yeah you can limit like everything09:00
sonne|workcpu.rt_runtime_us09:00
@wikingsonne|work: it's more finegrained than ulimit09:00
sonne|worknah sth else :/09:02
@wikingsonne|work: ID                  IMAGE                            COMMAND                CREATED             STATUS              PORTS09:02
@wikingb0ed635c7a09        vigsterkr/shogun-python:latest   /bin/sh -c ipython n   43 minutes ago      Up 43 minutes       49244->888809:02
@wikingthis is a docker statistics09:02
@wikingso we can get information about when it was created09:02
@wikingand when it was last time started09:03
@wikingso it would be quite easy to do some kind of a scheduler that check STATUS09:03
@wikingand shuts down everything that is longer than 60 minutes09:03
sonne|workgood enough then09:03
@wikingok i'll then add this garbage collector to the app09:05
@wikingand add a note line about this hard limit to the cloud site09:06
sonne|workI guess we can later add some .js & knob on the website to ask for another 60 mins09:06
@wikingsonne|work: yeps.... i'll just check if i can do this whole thing within the webapp09:06
@wikingsonne|work: i dont know if it's possible there somehow to do a loop or something :P09:06
@wikingsonne|work: so should i shutdown containers now that are running longer than 60 mins?09:10
sonne|workyes09:10
@wikingdone09:10
sonne|workwiking: did any remain?09:11
@wikingyes09:11
@wiking309:11
sonne|workheh09:11
sonne|workI guess we had 30 people trying it out -> then out of memory09:11
@wikingindeed09:11
@wikingsonne|work: should i add a counter there? :D09:16
@wikingsonne|work: ok maybe it's even easier09:16
sonne|workwiking: nah09:16
@wikingsonne|work: i add a simple js there that counts down09:16
@wikingmmm09:18
@wikingyeah it's not the best if one closes the tab :P09:18
sonne|workwiking: can't you extract the time the thing runs and display it?09:26
@wikingsonne|work: yes but if one closes a tab...?09:29
sonne|workwiking: would be nice if the container shuts down immediately then09:42
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@iglesiasgmorning09:45
sonne|workmoing iglesiasg09:47
@wikingbesser82: nfs?10:10
@wikingsonne|work: would it b safe just to have an url like http://cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/purge10:17
@wikingwhich if called would stop all the timeouted containers?10:17
@wikingof course this way everybody could call this function ... but then again we dont really care as the it would only stop containers that run out of time10:18
@wikingso i dont really see a big security issue there10:18
@wikingand then i just crontab a curl command for every 30 mins...10:24
sonne|workwiking: I would do this using a cron job locally10:27
sonne|workwiking: and rather use this mechanism to display the runtime in minutes of the current container!10:27
@wiking?10:34
@wiking"10:27 < sonne|work> wiking: and rather use this mechanism to display the runtime in minutes of the current container!" what?10:34
sonne|workwiking: I mean when you can do sth like /purge10:35
sonne|workwiking: you can do a /minutes-available url just returning some digits10:35
@wikingsonne|work: of the current session?10:35
sonne|workwiking: we can then use .js to display this10:35
sonne|workwiking: yes10:35
@wikingsonne|work: ok but that still does not solve the whole thing...10:35
@wikingsonne|work: as we are not only monitoring the current sessions10:36
@wikingbut all of them10:36
sonne|workwiking: I don't understand what you mean - I thought there is just one session per user?10:37
@wikingyes10:37
@wikingbut i want to monitor all the sessions10:37
@wikingand do the purging at once10:37
sonne|workwiking: sure but that you you can do locally in some shell script10:37
@wikingsonne|work: but i dont want to do that in a shell script10:38
sonne|workwiking: the other thing is just some potentially valuable notification for the user10:38
@wikingas it's hacky10:38
sonne|workwiking: why not?10:38
sonne|workyou mean url is not?10:38
@wikingbecause it's much easier to do within the webapp10:38
@wikingto do the purging10:38
sonne|workwiking: pretty weird - I guess you can run the /purge thing only locally - I mean just don't expose this to the outside10:45
@wikinganybody know10:45
@wikinghow to convert this into seconds with python10:45
@wiking2013-10-30T10:41:47.265306601+01:0010:45
@wiking?10:45
sonne|workwiking: strptime()10:46
@wikingmmm i think this is a standard ISO format10:47
@wikingi hoped that there's a ctor for this :P10:47
sonne|workwiking: doesnt' look ISO but rather java like10:48
@wikingISO 860110:49
@wikingReturn a string representing the date and time in ISO 8601 format, YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS.mmmmmm10:50
@wikingincluding timezone10:50
sonne|workwiking: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/969285/how-do-i-translate-a-iso-8601-datetime-string-into-a-python-datetime-object#96932410:52
sonne|workdatetime.datetime.strptime( "2007-03-04T21:08:12", "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S" )10:52
sonne|workimport dateutil.parser10:53
sonne|workyourdate = dateutil.parser.parse(datestring)10:53
sonne|workwiking: the last one seems good for you10:54
@wikingsonne|work: http://cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/seconds-available11:17
@wikingdone11:17
thoralfsonne|work, wiking: I tried to log into the shogun cloud service, but github tells me it wants 7 different rights.11:29
thoralfAre all of them neccessary?11:29
@wikingthoralf: tried to change the scope11:30
@wikingthoralf: but there's no such11:30
@wikinghttp://developer.github.com/v3/oauth/#scopes11:30
@wikingsonne|work:                 Due to high demand and low available resources we had to introduce a time limit per session to 60 minutes.<br/>11:33
@wiking                If you would like to have more time please don't hesistate to contact us!<br/>11:33
@wiking                Thank you for your understanding11:33
thoralfwiking: I see.  Thank you.11:33
@wikingok?11:33
@wikingok11:35
sonne|workwiking: excellent so now we just need some way to embed this into the website11:40
@wikingyeah well some js hacker should do that ;)11:40
sonne|workwiking: yes cool! YOu could add11:40
@wikingi'm just writing an email as well11:40
sonne|workwiking: no problem with jquery11:41
sonne|workbut no idea how to do load some extra .js in the ipython notebooks11:41
@wikingsonne|work:11:41
@wikingupdate for the cloud:11:41
@wiking"Due to high demand and low available resources we had to introduce a time limit of 60 minutes per session."11:41
@wikingwe are currently trying to find ways to extend our service. we basically do not have enough resources of our own to serve this level of demand, hence if you could help us out with more CPU/MEMORY, please contact us!11:41
@wikingcheers,11:41
@wikingviktor11:42
@wikingsonne|work: can this go on the mailing list?11:42
sonne|worksure11:43
sonne|workwiking: you could add in the description: Note that simply restarting your session will give you extra 60 minutes with you continuing where you left. All your work is saved.11:44
@wikingyeh indeed11:44
@iglesiasgwiking, hey! So did Shogun cloud get many users?11:45
@wikingiglesiasg: well it's getting fair amount11:45
@wikingit's not like ddos11:46
@wikingbut we had to introduce some limits already11:46
@iglesiasgyeah, I just checked the timer thingy11:46
@iglesiasgbut it is cool that people are using, breat11:46
@iglesiasggreat*11:46
@wikingheheh yeah if u dont use it11:46
@wikingplz log out ;)11:46
@wikingthat'll give us an extra slot ;P11:46
@iglesiasghaha yeah sure11:46
@wikingwe can serve like 15 slots at once11:47
@iglesiasgI always log out ;)11:47
@iglesiasggoing to check just in case..11:47
@iglesiasgyep, logged out indeed11:47
@wikingcool thxn11:47
sonne|workwiking: I thought ddos was not possible because of out of memory messages right?11:50
@wikingsonne|work: well the app container can still be ddos-ed11:56
@wiking;)11:56
@wikingbut from my point11:57
@wikingnobody actually running anything in the cloud ;P11:57
@wikingthey just log in11:57
@wikingand then that's it11:57
@wikingbesser82: ping12:00
@wikinghehhe there's only one active session now after the crontab12:02
besser82wiking: pong!12:02
besser82wiking: i'm on das nfs-thing...12:02
@wikingbesser82: u can just readd my public key12:03
@wikingand i can do it12:03
besser82wiking: will do in 5 minutes12:03
besser82wiking: pub-key12:03
besser82wiking: but i got disrupted by some customer who wanted me to take his $$$  ;)12:03
@wiking64 bytes from 209.132.184.157: icmp_req=9 ttl=49 time=136 ms12:04
@wikingmmm12:04
@wikingthat nfs will be interesting :P12:04
@wikingbut it's worth a shot12:04
besser82wiking: looks like it will have some lag...12:04
besser82wiking: you should be able to log in within the next 30 sec.12:21
besser82wiking: rsa-key added12:22
besser82wiking: fedora-ca is up and running again12:22
@wikingk12:32
@wikingthnx12:32
@wikingok now i need to find a way to do this12:33
sonne|workwiking: yeah sure that is all I would do too :)13:30
sonne|workand then at some point I would come back...13:31
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@HeikoSsonne|work, wiking, iglesiasg, besser82, lisitsyn, naywhayare, thoralf http://herrstrathmann.de/ blog entry13:34
sonne|workhey HeikoS13:34
sonne|workHeikoS: I didn't manage to do this full gsoc blog yet13:34
@HeikoShi13:34
@HeikoSsonne|work: dont worry, at least we have something now13:34
sonne|workI blogged however about the cloud on twitter & g+ & my blog13:34
sonne|workand then about the release13:35
@HeikoSthats good13:35
@HeikoSits good to do things in waves I guess13:35
sonne|workso > 100k people should have seen it13:35
sonne|workwell we don't do things properly marketing wise13:35
sonne|workwe should do it snowden way13:35
sonne|workI mean one big bummer13:35
@HeikoShehe13:35
sonne|workand then updates all the time13:35
sonne|workiglesiasg: could you please make the videos the default when you click on events?13:36
@iglesiasglet me try13:37
@iglesiasgsonne|work, test it plase13:38
@iglesiasgplease or whatever :D13:38
sonne|workiglesiasg: haha13:40
sonne|workexcellent13:40
@iglesiasgHeikoS, nice post!13:43
@wikingheheh no active docker container13:45
@wikingwe killed them all13:46
@wiking:DDD13:46
sonne|workwiking: can we put things further - I mean I have this 'open in new window' thing13:46
sonne|workwiking: could we add run interactively in the cloud?13:46
@wikingmeaning?13:46
sonne|workwiking: and this would then open this particular notebook in the cloud?13:46
@wikingsonne|work: you mean via the website?13:46
@wikingso like13:47
sonne|workwiking: yes when you click on an example in the gallery13:47
@wikinghahaha13:47
@wikinggood luck creating it13:47
@wiking:)13:47
sonne|workit says open a new window13:47
@wikingsorry but that's just insane amount of work13:47
sonne|workerrm why that?13:47
@HeikoSguys, btw its sooo cool to show people shogun on my phone/tablet13:47
@HeikoSwhile having coffee13:47
sonne|workall it needs is to know which notebook to open13:47
@wikingsonne|work: ok so you want to fire up a new container after authing + open within ipython that give ipynb13:48
sonne|workexactly13:48
@wikingthe first part is more or less done13:48
@wikingbut how the fuck do you do opening the notebook13:48
sonne|workno idea how to tell ipython open that particular notebook13:48
@wikingwithin that given ipython session13:48
@wikingso13:48
@wikingtehre you go13:48
@wikingthat's why it's not easy13:48
@iglesiasgI am afraid that the link to Tapkee's demo is broken13:51
@iglesiasghttp://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/documentation/demo/13:51
@iglesiasglast one in the list13:51
sonne|workiglesiasg: could you please fix it13:52
sonne|workahh no you cannot :/13:52
sonne|workit just needs a data checkout / link on fatbot13:52
sonne|workwiking: well we can start with the poor mans solution - it gives you the file open thing from ipython13:54
@wikingglhf13:55
@wikingaintnotime sorry13:55
@wiking:(13:55
@iglesiasgsonne|work, I downloaded the words.dat file in 7nn13:57
@iglesiasgand put it into shogun-demo/static/data/tapkee13:57
@iglesiasgbut didn't work out13:57
sonne|workiglesiasg: IIRC data should be in root folder13:59
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@sonney2kbesser82, script time19:34
@sonney2kbesser82, sent!19:39
@sonney2klisitsyn, lisitsyn1 where can I get the transparent faces from?19:50
@sonney2klisitsyn, the .png's seem to not be in the files19:50
@sonney2kdata dirs I mean19:51
@sonney2klisitsyn, forget it found it :D20:01
lisitsyn1sonney2k: mit cbcl faces dataset20:07
lisitsyn1sonney2k: it has license issues though :D20:08
@sonney2kit is a demo20:08
lisitsyn1oh then it is ok20:09
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besser82sonney2k: besser82@fedoraproject.org20:53
@sonney2klisitsyn, ok http://demos.shogun-toolbox.org/dimred/tapkee/ works now21:18
@sonney2klisitsyn, but only words_embedding is done on-the-fly21:18
@sonney2klisitsyn, the rest seem just to be some static stuff21:19
@sonney2klisitsyn, so in case you have some time...21:19
lisitsyn1sonney2k: what shall I do then?21:26
besser82sonney2k: Which is the actual license of your scrubbing-script?  Can I assume GPLv3+?21:45
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@sonney2kbesser82, sure22:07
@sonney2kHeikoS, I am going to add open in cloud or so to the notebooks22:08
besser82sonney2k: allrighty! Just properly credited that in my spec-file  ;)22:08
HeikoSsonney2k: very nice idea22:08
@sonney2kbesser82, c'mon just use it22:08
@sonney2kbesser82, I will use that for debian too22:08
besser82sonney2k: already on it  ;)22:08
besser82sonney2k: but it phukes-up the build  :(  Need to fix some CMakeLists.txt afterwards...22:09
besser82CMake Error at examples/undocumented/libshogun/CMakeLists.txt:115 (add_executable):22:09
besser82  Cannot find source file:22:09
besser82    /home/besser82/rpmbuild/BUILD/shogun-3.0.0/examples/undocumented/libshogun/classifier_mkl_svmlight_modelselection_bug.cpp22:09
besser82soney2k:  ^^^22:09
besser82sonney2k:  ^^^22:09
besser82sonney2k:  will make needed mods to script and share it with you  ;)22:10
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@sonney2kbesser82, yeah we need to remove examples requiring svmlight too22:12
* sonney2k sighs22:12
@sonney2klisitsyn, well of course make it compute the embedding on-the-fly like it is doing for words22:24
besser82sonney2k: there you go with the working script  :D  --->  http://ur1.ca/fymm222:24
besser82sonney2k: now preserves timestamps, too  ;)22:24
lisitsyn1sonney2k: ah okay I'll check22:25
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shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: fix tapkee paths22:30
@sonney2kbesser82, heh cross distribution release script :D22:32
besser82sonney2k: yes  :D22:33
besser82sonney2k: I think it some synergy effect in Linux-world  :-P22:33
besser82sonney2k: But there's still one thing it need to fix....  the unit-tests....22:34
besser82sonney2k: I hope we won't need that script for next 3.X.X release anymore  :D22:37
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@sonney2kbesser82, kind of bug #1 in ubuntu indeed23:01
besser82sonney2k: ????23:01
@sonney2kbesser82, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/123:02
besser82sonney2k: ahh  :D23:02
besser82sonney2k: here's an updated script to fix the modules without SVM^%{your_favourite_swear} ---> http://ur1.ca/fymuk23:03
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * 44bee1b / / (7 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/44bee1be4cdf99038f9b06ef2e03fe37046eb24b23:06
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: enable toy data set loading + minor fixes23:06
@sonney2kiglesiasg, lisitsyn do you have a sec?23:08
@sonney2kcould you go to http://demos.shogun-toolbox.org/clustering/kmeans/23:08
@sonney2kand then to toy data23:08
@sonney2kand click dump at the bottom?23:08
@sonney2kor thoralf or lisitsyn1 or whoever is awake23:09
lisitsyn1sonney2k: yes let me23:09
@sonney2klisitsyn1, hurray23:09
@sonney2kI fixed toy data loading23:09
lisitsyn1sonney2k: yes worked here23:09
@sonney2know if we had some coool data sets we could actually do cool stuff23:09
@sonney2klisitsyn, then cluster with say 50 clusters23:09
lisitsyn1sonney2k: I am a bit confused with 'dump' naming23:10
@sonney2kor 100 if you want :)23:10
lisitsyn1dump is something 'out', right?23:10
@sonney2kyeah load would make more sence :)23:10
lisitsyn1but it is 'load'23:10
lisitsyn1okay23:10
@sonney2klisitsyn, yeah well it is loaded from disk and then dumped into your webbrowser23:10
@sonney2kI also kind of think that the cluster solution should go away when you load toy data etc23:11
besser82sonney2k: another fix in tha house, cmon  :D ---> http://ur1.ca/fymwu23:12
@iglesiasgI can try too23:12
@iglesiasg+1 to load instead of dump too :)23:14
lisitsyn1cryptic scripts coming around23:16
@sonney2kbesser82, parse error heaven :-]23:17
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shogun-notifier-shogun-web: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * f06a835 / templates/overlay.html,templates/subpage.html: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-web/commit/f06a835d2a05ed5948dc2a6ea4a028eb1f03303023:24
shogun-notifier-shogun-web: mention the cloud(tm)23:24
besser82sonney2k: dafuq! seen it: examples/undocumented/libshogun/evaluation_cross_validation_locked_comparison.cpp:15:44: schwerwiegender Fehler: shogun/classifier/svm/SVMLight.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden23:24
besser82 #include <shogun/classifier/svm/SVMLight.h>23:24
lisitsyn1hahah german compile errors look scary23:26
lisitsyn1AUSWEIS BITTE23:26
besser82lisitsyn: HABEN SIE GETRUNKEN?  XD23:27
besser82lisitsyn1: HABEN SIE GETRUNKEN?  XD23:27
lisitsyn1besser82: haha23:27
lisitsyn1I can guess the meaning23:27
besser82lisitsyn1: :D  That's actually the second question of police after "AUSWEIS BITTE"....  ;)23:28
lisitsyn1besser82: and how many times have you heard that? ;)23:32
besser82lisitsyn1: didn't count, but mst have been 100+ :-P23:33
lisitsyn1besser82: what do they do to you if you are deadly drunk in DE?23:33
besser82lisitsyn1: put you in jail for one night...23:34
lisitsyn1besser82: hah I see23:34
besser82lisitsyn1: and if that happenes 2 or 3 times you are sent to medical/psychologic examination to check if you are legitable to keep your driver's license23:35
lisitsyn1besser82: uhmm even if you weren't driving drunk?23:35
besser82lisitsyn1: yes, because you possibly could23:35
lisitsyn1haha what a police state23:35
besser82lisitsyn1: I guess every country has it's idioms  ;)23:36
besser82lisitsyn1: go to "Kreml" and shout "I'm Gay and want to marry!"  ;-P23:37
besser82lisitsyn1: let's look what happenes next  XD23:37
besser82sonney2k: ?ffne die Augen, das compiled wie die Sonne  ;)   --->  http://ur1.ca/fyn2v23:39
lisitsyn1besser82: welllllllll23:40
besser82lisitsyn1: BUSTED!!!!23:41
lisitsyn1besser82: heh  welllllll23:41
lisitsyn1it is not that simple :D23:42
lisitsyn1gay issue is just about having something to hate23:42
lisitsyn1because it is easier to control someone who hates stuff around23:42
besser82lisitsyn1: that's right  ;)23:43
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lisitsyn1oops23:43
besser82lisitsyn1: I just thought gov has taken you down for that  ;P23:43
besser82lisitsyn1: XD23:43
lisitsyn1besser82: I have been saying worse things about gov23:44
lisitsyn1:D23:44
besser82lisitsyn1: Wait for NSA to report  :-P23:44
lisitsyn1besser82: I already was rejected for us visa :D23:44
besser82lisitsyn1: What did you do?23:45
lisitsyn1besser82: ah well nothing they just believe everyone is going to escape to the us23:45
lisitsyn1besser82: like I am young not married software engineer23:46
besser82lisitsyn1: ahhh.  that's a reason for uncle sam  ;)23:46
lisitsyn1a good catch for immigrant23:46
lisitsyn1besser82: officer said it would be better 'if you were married'23:46
lisitsyn1oh okay let me marry then lol23:46
besser82lisitsyn1: and take your wife with you  ;)23:46
lisitsyn1besser82: your state was much better in that sense :D23:47
lisitsyn1I didn't have to pass any interview or whatever23:47
lisitsyn1here is my 80 EUR here is my docz and here is my visa then23:48
besser82lisitsyn1: coming into Germany is actually much easier than getting a visa for any other state ;)23:48
lisitsyn1I like this workflow more23:48
lisitsyn1with us it was fill in 4332-page form23:48
lisitsyn1come to moscow to pass interview23:49
lisitsyn1fail interview23:49
lisitsyn1and go f yourself23:49
lisitsyn1:D23:49
besser82lisitsyn1: and pay the bill anyways ;)23:49
lisitsyn1yes indeed23:49
lisitsyn1besser82: and nearly the same money to get to the capital and back23:49
besser82lisitsyn1: Go and get yourself a German passport ;)23:50
besser82lisitsyn1: 6 weeks US, no visa needed  ;)23:50
lisitsyn1besser82: oh let me first live there for how much? 9 years?23:50
lisitsyn1:D23:50
besser82lisitsyn1: no, come here, goto "Einb?rgerungsamt" and tell Grandpa had a German Sherphard  :D23:51
besser82lisitsyn1: no, come here, goto "Einb?rgerungsamt" and tell Grandpa had a German Sherphard  :D23:51
lisitsyn1lisitsyn1: haha23:51
lisitsyn1oops23:51
lisitsyn1:D23:51
lisitsyn1besser82: haha23:51
shogun-notifier-shogun-web: Soeren Sonnenburg :master * 15326bd / shogun.sqlite,static/css/style.css,templates/overlay.html: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-web/commit/15326bd085ae658cc739a7b920530e9d8d81288e23:51
shogun-notifier-shogun-web: fix overlay23:51
besser82lisitsyn1: pay the 28,90 EUR and get the German passport within 10 days  :-P23:51
lisitsyn1besser82: oh easy peasy23:52
besser82lisitsyn1: Yes23:52
@sonney2klisitsyn, still around?23:52
@sonney2klisitsyn1, ^23:52
lisitsyn1sonney2k: yes23:52
lisitsyn1sonney2k: kick other me please23:53
@sonney2kif so could you please open the website again23:53
lisitsyn1I feel your pain typing 1 at the end23:53
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lisitsyn1thanks23:53
lisitsyn1:D23:53
lisitsyn1okay23:53
lisitsyn1website23:53
@sonney2kand then reload23:53
@sonney2kthen click some thumb23:53
@sonney2kI mean notebook thumb23:53
@sonney2kdo you still have 2 scroll bars?23:53
lisitsyn1sonney2k: only vertical one23:54
@sonney2ka single one?23:54
lisitsyn1yes23:54
@sonney2kperfect23:54
@sonney2klisitsyn1, and on top some overlay thing to click for cloud and new window right?23:54
lisitsyn1sonney2k: yeah23:55
lisitsyn1sonney2k: why don't you use bootstrap for that btw?23:55
besser82sonney2k: here's the everything-works-as-expected-version of the scrubbing-script:  http://ur1.ca/fyn6o23:55
lisitsyn1sonney2k: I mean modal window23:55
lisitsyn1it is a component in bootstrap23:56
@sonney2kbesser82, heh23:56
besser82sonney2k: even testsuite runs fine  ;)23:56
@sonney2klisitsyn1, no idea about bootstrap so all handmade kongfu23:58
lisitsyn1sonney2k: uhh you should try it one day then! ;)23:58
lisitsyn1sonney2k: that's just a matter of a few divs with specified class23:58
@sonney2kman I like the demos / notebook & stuff23:58
@sonney2kit is really sexy23:58
@sonney2kbusiness23:58
lisitsyn1sonney2k: haha ENTERPRISE23:59
@sonney2kwe should extend them23:59
@sonney2kmore and more and more23:59
@sonney2kand it is all so easy to do even23:59
lisitsyn1yeah and somebody should take care of code meanwhile23:59
lisitsyn1:D23:59
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