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| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, I mean we can even write a whole book kind of thing with these notebooks and nicely render that on the website | 00:00 |
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| lisitsyn1 | sonney2k: yes sure | 00:00 |
| @sonney2k | like with code and examples and everything | 00:00 |
| @sonney2k | and it is tested | 00:00 |
| @sonney2k | it is like heaven | 00:00 |
| @sonney2k | too bad we fucked up the cloud thing | 00:01 |
| @sonney2k | 30 users for a DDoS is not really DD | 00:01 |
| lisitsyn1 | hacker's dream | 00:02 |
| @sonney2k | anyway now with timeouts stuff should be better | 00:02 |
| lisitsyn1 | you don't need to waste money on a botnet if you can ddos with 30 nodes :D | 00:02 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, even one node with 30 accounts | 00:02 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, at least 15 people did login via github :) | 00:03 |
| @sonney2k | but it was a waste to ping 100k people for the cloud thing :) | 00:03 |
| lisitsyn1 | sonney2k: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogun_(toolbox) just updated wiki | 00:09 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, is article is soo damn outdated | 00:11 |
| lisitsyn1 | sonney2k: yes needs to be rewritten as a part of possible SEO effort :D | 00:11 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, *lol* | 00:11 |
| @sonney2k | we just leave it to rot | 00:11 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, I lost the key for this google cloud thing :/ | 00:12 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, asking again on the mailinglist - maybe somebody posts it | 00:12 |
| lisitsyn1 | sonney2k: my new idea | 00:13 |
| lisitsyn1 | everybody should talk about shogun | 00:13 |
| lisitsyn1 | :D | 00:13 |
| lisitsyn1 | well one way is to become a terrorist group and do some explosions | 00:13 |
| lisitsyn1 | but I prefer something more civil | 00:13 |
| lisitsyn1 | schlafen! | 00:15 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn1: Gute Nacht :D | 00:15 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, good idea to cure you from madness too! | 00:15 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn1, schnarche gut! | 00:15 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: with scrubbed sources one unittest fails :( | 00:16 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: 324 - unit-IsomapTest (Failed) ---> http://ur1.ca/fynbp | 00:16 |
| @sonney2k | besser82, isomap should be totally unrelated | 00:17 |
| @sonney2k | dammed | 00:17 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: but it's easily reproducible | 00:18 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: on unmodded tarball it passes | 00:18 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: everytime | 00:18 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: but it actually fails everytime on scrubbed sources | 00:18 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: time for me to push that SVMbright to a ready to use state | 00:19 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: within this week | 00:19 |
| besser82 | sonney2k: Gute Nacht :) | 00:32 |
| @sonney2k | night | 00:36 |
| * sonney2k Zzzz | 00:36 | |
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| @wiking | sonney2k: what key/ | 08:12 |
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| sonne|osx | wiking: I applied for google cloud | 08:33 |
| sonne|osx | wiking: I guess next week or so we should have sth. | 08:34 |
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| @wiking | aaah ok | 09:26 |
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| @wiking | :D | 09:42 |
| @wiking | kicking out | 09:42 |
| @lisitsyn | wiking: I keep forgetting to turn down irc | 09:43 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: ok problem solved | 09:45 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: notebookserver/[NOTEBOOKNAME] does the notebook opening | 09:45 |
| @wiking | this needs only now a little bit a js hacking | 09:47 |
| @wiking | mmm maaaybe we should change something on this site | 09:49 |
| @wiking | as i see that people keep logging in | 09:49 |
| @wiking | but they dont really do anything | 09:50 |
| @wiking | should we open instead of the about tab | 09:50 |
| @wiking | the ipython notebook tab by default | 09:50 |
| @wiking | imho yes | 09:50 |
| besser82 | Morning Folks! :D | 10:01 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Is there any news on funding SHOGUN-support e.V. ???? | 10:02 |
| sonne|work | besser82: HeikoS' duty - looks like we need to kick him hard :D | 10:12 |
| sonne|work | wiking: yes! | 10:12 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Let's dooooo it! :-P I want to donate some $$$ :D | 10:13 |
| sonne|work | wiking: actually I am tempted to say we do it the shogun web way: show thumbnails | 10:13 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Which would actually be EUREUREUR ;-P | 10:13 |
| sonne|work | wiking: and then clicking on one opens the corresponding notebook | 10:13 |
| sonne|work | besser82: we are not picky :D | 10:13 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: done | 10:16 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/notebook/FGM.ipynb | 10:16 |
| sonne|work | argh my mouse stopped working | 10:17 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: the only thing is that this does not handle the case | 10:17 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: not yet logged in | 10:17 |
| * sonne|work loggs off | 10:17 | |
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| @wiking | oh this will be fucking interesting... ;) | 10:20 |
| @wiking | as it's a 2 way auth | 10:20 |
| @wiking | so i dont know how to save the stupid next url | 10:21 |
| @wiking | ok it should work now | 10:30 |
| @wiking | maaybe we should put it in an iframe... but now at least it works | 10:30 |
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| @iglesiasg | good morning! | 10:31 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: test it | 10:31 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/notebook/LMNN.ipynb | 10:31 |
| @wiking | but imho somehow we should solve it that the notebook server is actually via a proxy pass | 10:32 |
| @wiking | and not publicly available... | 10:32 |
| @wiking | i mean directly ;P | 10:32 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: redirection works nicely? it opened u the notebook? | 10:33 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, aaah yeah sure | 10:33 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, I was running the whole notebook :D | 10:34 |
| @iglesiasg | I thought there was a problem or something | 10:34 |
| @wiking | hehe yeah let see | 10:34 |
| @wiking | nooo | 10:34 |
| @wiking | i just wanted to see if u get the notebook opened | 10:34 |
| @wiking | cool | 10:34 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, the redirection worked good yes, pasted that linked, logged in and then directly to the notebook | 10:34 |
| @wiking | cool | 10:34 |
| @wiking | i've change the default page after login | 10:34 |
| @iglesiasg | the notebook runs perfectly too btw haha | 10:34 |
| @wiking | to the notebook tab | 10:34 |
| @wiking | note the about | 10:34 |
| @wiking | *not the about | 10:34 |
| @wiking | as from the stats i see | 10:34 |
| @wiking | that people log in | 10:35 |
| @wiking | and then that's ti | 10:35 |
| @wiking | *it | 10:35 |
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| @wiking | they dont do anything | 10:35 |
| @iglesiasg | face palm... | 10:35 |
| @wiking | so maybe if they see the list of the notebooks | 10:35 |
| @wiking | they get it better :P | 10:35 |
| @iglesiasg | but it might be also that it is just us when we have logged in? | 10:35 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: done. iglesiasg tested it and worked for him as well | 10:35 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: what do u mean? | 10:35 |
| @iglesiasg | I mean, I have logged in a couple of times and just logged out directly to test everything was fine there | 10:35 |
| @wiking | :D | 10:36 |
| @wiking | naaah | 10:36 |
| @wiking | i haven't seen python running | 10:36 |
| @wiking | at all :D | 10:36 |
| @iglesiasg | ok | 10:36 |
| @wiking | ipython server starts | 10:36 |
| @wiking | and they idle there :) | 10:36 |
| @wiking | and then after 60 mins the session is closed :P | 10:36 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: so basically u can add a link on webpage for 'open in shogun cloud' for the notebooks ;p | 10:37 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, anyone so far who have done anything? | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | wiking: I did already but not with the proper url | 10:37 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: http://cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/notebook/<notebookname.ipynb> | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | wiking: because I thought you don't get this to work :P | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | wiking: just try how it is now | 10:38 |
| sonne|work | all the rest is trivial to add | 10:38 |
| @wiking | ah i see :P | 10:38 |
| @wiking | yeah just need to ad the right link for that Try in cloud | 10:38 |
| sonne|work | wiking: will do it today | 10:39 |
| @wiking | cool | 10:39 |
| sonne|work | wiking: and login works now too? | 10:39 |
| sonne|work | wiking: I mean people have to login first | 10:39 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: yeah if they are not logged in they'll be redirected to login and after successful login they'll be redirected to the notebook | 10:50 |
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| sonne|work | wiking: excellent! | 11:57 |
| besser82 | HeikoS: Any news about founding SHOGUN-support e.V.? I want to donate the EUREUREUR :-P | 12:29 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, remember to send me your workshop slides if that is not a problem ;) | 13:22 |
| @lisitsyn | besser82: want to donate? :D | 13:24 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: yes :D But to make it tax-reducting I need to donate to some e.V., Foudation or similar ;) | 13:25 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: So I was asking HeikoS how this stage is grown.... | 13:25 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: ohshityeahsorry will asap | 13:31 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, :D thanks! | 13:31 |
| @wiking | yeah let's make that e.V. or register it elsewhere if it's too complicated | 13:31 |
| @wiking | i mean it does not really matter which country the fundation really resides... | 13:32 |
| @lisitsyn | besser82: give it to me I'll take care :D | 13:33 |
| besser82 | wiking: founding some e.V. actually is really easy, just time consuming... | 13:34 |
| sonne|work | wiking: it is more that you have to write some 'hey we are a non profit and that are our goals' | 13:35 |
| sonne|work | wiking: the rest is only me taking this thing to some notar/agency here | 13:35 |
| besser82 | wiking: you will just need ~5 founding members and some time for doing the paper-business... | 13:35 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: i can make in 1 day here a nonprofit organisation for shogun (just asked about it last week) | 13:35 |
| @wiking | here i need 3 members | 13:36 |
| besser82 | wiking: actually the notar should be able to provide the "Satzung" for non-profit | 13:36 |
| sonne|work | besser82: we did already - and everyone did sign the draft | 13:36 |
| sonne|work | besser82: but HeikoS polished things a bit | 13:36 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: I see, OK... but where is it struggling by? | 13:37 |
| sonne|work | besser82: well a day has 24hrs and we have real lives | 13:45 |
| sonne|work | besser82: in this case HeikoS is just studying too hard ;) | 13:45 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Real lives?!? Which server is that? Never heared of it. :-P | 13:47 |
| @lisitsyn | haha | 13:47 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Let's keep it serious: So HeikoS just needs some more time for polishing, right? | 13:48 |
| sonne|work | besser82: I think he did it even already | 13:48 |
| sonne|work | besser82: just some mail to the ML or so is necessary | 13:48 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: So the real problem is meeting && signing??? | 13:48 |
| sonne|work | besser82: well we did already meet and sign | 13:56 |
| sonne|work | besser82: updates are really minor | 13:56 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, we need to carry out a poll or something similar to select a couple of representatives methinks | 14:19 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: Representatives for the e.V. / foundation? | 14:23 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, yes, I think so | 14:23 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: That a real good idea ;) | 14:23 |
| @iglesiasg | someone with some responsibilities IIRC | 14:23 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: But how would we setup the nomination / voting? | 14:26 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: Everybody nominates himself? Who is eligitable to vote? | 14:26 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: What is the min. quorum to be elected? | 14:27 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, I am going to set up something similar to doodle but used for voting, we did a test with it | 14:27 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, once HeikoS sends me names and mail addresses we collected in Berlin last June | 14:27 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: Another good catch ;) | 14:28 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, about the quorum, no idea really. And people eligible to vote I guess everyone who signed this Satzung | 14:29 |
| @iglesiasg | besser82, but I think people who have joined later should be able to participate if they want | 14:29 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: I'd propose a quorum with minimal majority wouldbe reasonable. --> voters/2 + 1 | 14:31 |
| besser82 | iglesiasg: Actual members of the e.V. should be able to "steer", I'd agree with you | 14:31 |
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| @HeikoS | besser82, sonney2k foundation stuff is next on my list | 16:14 |
| @HeikoS | will happen this week | 16:14 |
| @HeikoS | after release was finally done :) | 16:14 |
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| dsockwell | what's this? i take my eyes off you fellas for one day and you start incorporating | 16:20 |
| sonne|work | dsockwell: what? | 16:21 |
| dsockwell | re: this foundation talk. i think i'm funny. | 16:28 |
| sonne|work | dsockwell: ahh we did this already this summer - july!! | 16:29 |
| dsockwell | oh, congrats | 16:29 |
| sonne|work | but we need to finish things up that :) | 16:30 |
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| @lisitsyn | HeikoS: iglesiasg: sonney2k: wiking: fantastic five altogether :D | 18:42 |
| @iglesiasg | wow | 18:42 |
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| @wiking | :D | 18:55 |
| @wiking | lol | 18:55 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun-web: cloud directly opens the notebook | 22:40 |
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| sonne|osx | wiking: I cannot put the site live from here but it works with what I pushed | 22:42 |
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| sonne|osx | wiking: got confirmation about google cloud... | 22:49 |
| sonne|osx | creating it now | 22:49 |
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| @wiking | sonne|work: cool | 22:54 |
| @iglesiasg | Google cloud?? | 22:56 |
| @iglesiasg | What are we going to use it for? | 22:56 |
| @wiking | u have one guess ;P | 22:57 |
| @iglesiasg | run Shogun cloud over Google cloud platform I guess :) | 22:58 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, but is still for the ipython environment, right? | 22:58 |
| @wiking | u one a free shogun session :P | 22:58 |
| @wiking | yeps | 22:58 |
| @iglesiasg | It is just so that we don't have to worry about the infrastructure | 22:58 |
| @wiking | well | 22:59 |
| @wiking | we'll see how we'll maange :P | 22:59 |
| @wiking | *manage | 22:59 |
| @iglesiasg | hehe I am reading about Google cloud right now | 22:59 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, so the idea is that we won't use fatbot any more to provide the Shogun session | 23:00 |
| @iglesiasg | or? | 23:00 |
| @wiking | i would say load balance | 23:02 |
| @wiking | so still keep the fatbo | 23:03 |
| @wiking | fatbot | 23:03 |
| @wiking | but use fatbot's nginx to do some kind of a load balancing between g.cloud + fatbot | 23:03 |
| @iglesiasg | neat, I like the idea | 23:04 |
| @iglesiasg | wiking, do we have access to some sort of Google analytics to see how the impact is going? | 23:05 |
| @iglesiasg | I'd love to check it! | 23:05 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: analytics.google.com | 23:06 |
| @wiking | use shogun-team@ | 23:06 |
| @wiking | it tracks a bit the cloud | 23:06 |
| @wiking | not all as i didn't integrate the tracking script into the notebooks :P | 23:06 |
| @iglesiasg | average visit duration 1 min 05? | 23:12 |
| @iglesiasg | buuh | 23:12 |
| @iglesiasg | What's up with the people?! hehe | 23:12 |
| @wiking | iglesiasg: yeah | 23:15 |
| @wiking | :( | 23:15 |
| @wiking | as said | 23:15 |
| @wiking | login and then leave | 23:15 |
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| @iglesiasg | yep | 23:28 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, iglesiasg please try if it works! | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | I just deployed | 23:32 |
| @wiking | what? | 23:33 |
| @wiking | and where? | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, http://www.shogun-toolbox.org and click on the thumbs | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | and shift reload I guess | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | well notebook thumbs | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | when you click the cloud thing it should open it directly | 23:35 |
| @wiking | noup | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, shift reload :P | 23:36 |
| @wiking | oknow | 23:36 |
| @wiking | demos | 23:36 |
| @wiking | i was checking :P | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, yeah well... | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | code is not really beautiful but anyway | 23:37 |
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| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, reason is simple no spare time ... | 23:37 |
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| @sonney2k | wiking, I guess the cloud thing is rather business than personal... | 23:40 |
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| HeikoS | sonney2k: around? | 23:45 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, sure | 23:45 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I don't sleep so what else shall I do | 23:45 |
| HeikoS | sonney2k: what is the reposiutory where the foundation stuff is again? | 23:45 |
| @sonney2k | (except for having nuts) | 23:45 |
| HeikoS | haha :) | 23:45 |
| HeikoS | eating nuts? :) | 23:45 |
| HeikoS | haha | 23:46 |
| HeikoS | yeah I reckoned that | 23:46 |
| HeikoS | I was just doing some yoga ;) | 23:46 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, the tiger | 23:46 |
| HeikoS | sonney2k: shogun publicity, where is it? | 23:46 |
| HeikoS | sonney2k: btw just ordered the new thinkpad | 23:46 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, hehe | 23:47 |
| HeikoS | sonney2k: its weird, memory does not increase that much anymore | 23:48 |
| HeikoS | had 8gb | 23:48 |
| HeikoS | new one has 12gb max option from vendor | 23:48 |
| @sonney2k | yeah stupid | 23:48 |
| HeikoS | but looking forward to the 8threads | 23:48 |
| HeikoS | and the battery life ;) | 23:48 |
| @sonney2k | my macbook air has just 4gb | 23:48 |
| HeikoS | I wonder why that is, I want 64GB | 23:49 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k, the thumbs work nice here to open the cloud directly | 23:50 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, heh :) | 23:50 |
| @iglesiasg | so nice! | 23:50 |
| HeikoS | indeed | 23:50 |
| HeikoS | I like the "try cloud" | 23:50 |
| @iglesiasg | there is something with the demos though, I am not sure if it is expected behaviour | 23:51 |
| @iglesiasg | so if you open one and press esc it closes it, good | 23:52 |
| @iglesiasg | but if you do some stuff, say generate some data and train the model | 23:52 |
| @iglesiasg | and press esc then, the demo does not close | 23:52 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, hmmhh indeed - no idea how to fix that | 23:53 |
| @iglesiasg | there is something similar for the notebooks too | 23:53 |
| @sonney2k | and no idea why this is happening in the first place | 23:53 |
| @iglesiasg | if you click somewhere just for fun, then esc does not do its job | 23:53 |
| @iglesiasg | if you just scroll though, then it is fine | 23:53 |
| @iglesiasg | it seems to happen once the demo or the notebook get the "focus" | 23:54 |
| @iglesiasg | no idea either, it seems to be sth subtle... | 23:55 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, would make sense - no idea how to register that | 23:55 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, alright cloud is ordered now we have to wait for our 2k$ startup thing | 23:57 |
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