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shogun-buildbot | build #646 of nightly_default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/646 | 04:05 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * e4019ba / .gitmodules,data: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e4019ba5f1ff2d773c87dfd76712290d38fc41c7 | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Used `$ git config -f .gitmodules submodule.data.branch master`: Making submodule | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: `data` track branch `shogun-data/master` automatically. | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 626469f / .gitmodules: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/626469fbaa8563d681aa905b3a967d75cbc21e0b | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1790 from tklein23/develop | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Submodule `data` tracks branch `shogun-data/master`automatically. | 08:04 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * ba3664e / src/shogun/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ba3664e7c613765839f15a57da7e857029d76b5a | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: svm/OnlineLibLinear: Added learning of StreamingSparseFeatures: | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Added method "train_one" for sparse vectors (a lot code duplication! sorry!) | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * "train_example" now consumes CStreamingDenseFeatures and CStreamingSparseFeatures | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Added bounds checking in CStreamingSparseFeatures<T>::dense_dot | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: (allowing sparse dot-product with shorter weight vector) | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * f3aab4c / examples/undocumented/libshogun/classifier_onlineliblinear_sparse.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f3aab4c33051c2acc8ee783c4ce0b2f9783186be | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Added example for OnlineLibLinear with streaming sparse features. | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * d208091 / examples/undocumented/libshogun/ (5 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d2080917a567a0bffd707d67ebb96d9554148fc2 | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Renamed examples more consistently. | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Enabled new example in CMakeLists.txt | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * 9b4c490 / examples/undocumented/libshogun/streaming_onlineliblinear_sparse.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9b4c490e7a39207d86b8f57ab9c05b872c4de9e2 | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Minor spelling and formatting changes accoring to review. | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * a0ce117 / / (8 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a0ce117b3ae7e9f446b91da9d5c2603e4aa68f99 | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1785 from tklein23/example_classifier_onlineliblinear_sparse | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Added example for OnlineLibLinear with streaming sparse features. | 08:07 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * feb1962 / src/shogun/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/feb1962c6887f254e011d0c4c28726e10dcd0c4f | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: svm/OnlineLibLinear: Added learning of StreamingSparseFeatures: | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Added method "train_one" for sparse vectors (a lot code duplication! sorry!) | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * "train_example" now consumes CStreamingDenseFeatures and CStreamingSparseFeatures | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: * Added bounds checking in CStreamingSparseFeatures<T>::dense_dot | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: (allowing sparse dot-product with shorter weight vector) | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 70e774d / : https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/70e774d7432051e56b0b79554376194c3bf21b12 | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1783 from tklein23/online_learning_sparse_stream | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 08:08 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: svm/OnlineLibLinear: Added learning of StreamingSparseFeatures | 08:08 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #2093 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2093 blamelist: Thoralf Klein <thoralf.klein@zib.de> | 08:50 |
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travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/15385111 | 08:58 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #2094 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2094 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 09:16 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #396 of FC19 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FC19%20-%20libshogun/builds/396 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Thoralf Klein <thoralf.klein@zib.de> | 09:27 |
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travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/15385193 | 09:30 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #355 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/355 blamelist: Thoralf Klein <thoralf.klein@zib.de> | 09:42 |
shogun-buildbot | build #356 of precise - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/356 | 10:00 |
shogun-buildbot | build #2095 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2095 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Thoralf Klein <thoralf.klein@zib.de> | 10:01 |
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mina | Hi. I ve got linux mint 13 and I m looking for package shogun-octave-modular but it doesn't appear to install it. I m new to linux. Can someone pls help me? | 15:02 |
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mina | More specifically, I did apt-cache search shogun and it return all the other shogun interfaces packages but none of the octave packages. | 15:06 |
bb_ | besser82 still stuck at the hdf5 issue and not being able to install on ubuntu | 15:11 |
bb_ | besser82 this is the error http://pastebin.com/TsmpHKXg | 15:17 |
besser82 | bb_: Could you please start compilation from a clean build-dir and use cmake -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON and paste me the full build-procedure, please? | 15:30 |
bb_ | besser82 sure doing this now | 15:31 |
besser82 | bb_: thanks a lot! Having a verbose build makes tracing the problems much easier ;) | 15:32 |
bb_ | besser82 beenish@beenishU:~/shogun-3.0.0/build$ sudo cmake -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON CMake Error: The source directory "/home/beenish/shogun-3.0.0/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI. | 15:34 |
besser82 | bb_: you forgot to append some `..` :-P | 15:35 |
bb_ | besser82 here is the output of cmake http://pastebin.com/aMt4Zxud | 15:38 |
besser82 | bb_: did you already start the compilation?!? | 15:40 |
bb_ | besser82 yes | 15:40 |
bb_ | besser82 do you want anything specific from me or abort | 15:40 |
besser82 | bb_: the output from the linker stage of libshogun would be the most important... | 15:40 |
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bb_ | besser82 here is the output http://pastebin.com/vmUMNfFA | 15:50 |
besser82 | bb_: looks like hdf5 doesn't get passed to the linker flags... | 15:55 |
besser82 | bb_: try this: | 15:55 |
besser82 | bb_: export LDFLAGS="/usr/lib/libhdf5.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so" | 15:56 |
besser82 | bb_: and do same i told you above afterwards, but DON'T use that sudo; it's needed for make install only ;) | 15:56 |
bb_ | besser82 just in the build direcotre | 15:57 |
besser82 | bb_: yes just in build-tree ;) | 15:57 |
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besser82 | HeikoS: HEY!!!!!! | 15:57 |
@HeikoS | besser82: hi! :) | 15:57 |
besser82 | HeikoS: Wasup?!? How are studies going? | 15:58 |
@HeikoS | besser82: just got back from NIPS | 15:58 |
@HeikoS | now trying to not fall asleep | 15:58 |
besser82 | HeikoS: some CafPow may help, for sure ;) | 15:58 |
@HeikoS | besser82: I dont know wheather that confuses the body not even more | 15:59 |
@HeikoS | but yeah for sure will do that ;) | 15:59 |
@HeikoS | just sent another controversial mail to the list :) | 15:59 |
besser82 | HeikoS: Lemme see... ;) | 16:00 |
besser82 | HeikoS: Nuthing there, yet :( | 16:00 |
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@HeikoS | besser82: should be | 16:01 |
@HeikoS | cced you | 16:01 |
besser82 | HeikoS: you actually started a religous discussion about ;) | 16:11 |
besser82 | HeikoS: the main problem is some stuff we link against | 16:11 |
besser82 | HeikoS: you may NOT link BSD-code against GPL'ed code ;) | 16:12 |
besser82 | HeikoS: That actually is a copyright-infringement :( | 16:12 |
@HeikoS | besser82: yeah I know, just a discussion and a suggestion | 16:14 |
besser82 | HeikoS: the other problem is: Many companies aviod GPL'ed code, because then they can't hide the fact they stole 99% to put together their brand-new shit-based oriented solution (tm) :-P | 16:14 |
@HeikoS | besser82: so what software does shogun link against that is GPL? | 16:15 |
@HeikoS | maybe we can do a GPL and BSD version | 16:15 |
besser82 | HeikoS: lemme look | 16:15 |
@HeikoS | where the GPL stuff is excluded via some preprocessing magic | 16:15 |
@HeikoS | besser82: you recently checked all libs right? | 16:15 |
@HeikoS | I know I took some parts of ALGLIB which are GPL | 16:15 |
@HeikoS | and some stuff of vojtech is GPL, but s?ren knows him | 16:16 |
@HeikoS | etc etc | 16:16 |
besser82 | HeikoS: not yet, but there are some for sure... | 16:16 |
@HeikoS | besser82: and main thing: I dont want to be religious but just pragmatic | 16:16 |
@HeikoS | and this would definitely increase our impact, at least it does not decrease it | 16:16 |
besser82 | HeikoS: The question is do we (and mostly S?ren) want Shogun to be shipped in some $$$-shit without getting credit?!? | 16:17 |
besser82 | HeikoS: That's the main problem with BSD / MIT style licenses.... | 16:17 |
@HeikoS | besser82: thats what I want to discuss | 16:17 |
@HeikoS | s?ren told me last time: it is too late | 16:17 |
@HeikoS | so lets see | 16:18 |
besser82 | HeikoS: kk ;) | 16:18 |
@HeikoS | the full python environment is bsd btw | 16:18 |
@HeikoS | scikit learn and all those | 16:18 |
@HeikoS | ipython | 16:18 |
bb_ | bessser82 it is still giving the same error | 16:18 |
@HeikoS | and they still get support from $$$ | 16:18 |
besser82 | bb_: linker stage output?!? | 16:19 |
besser82 | HeikoS: ColPack, e.g. is LGPL, not compat with BSD | 16:19 |
bb_ | besser82 http://pastebin.com/2Y77cjRr | 16:21 |
besser82 | HeikoS: glpk is GPLv3+, too | 16:21 |
bb_ | besser82 did not compile ith with verbose | 16:21 |
@HeikoS | besser82: what do you think about this modular approach of having a BSD core and some GPL extensions? | 16:21 |
@HeikoS | colpack is only used for a single algorithm | 16:21 |
@HeikoS | things like eigen3 and lapack are fine | 16:22 |
besser82 | HeikoS: a bsd core with GPL'ed plugins / extension might be a solution... | 16:22 |
@HeikoS | besser82: then the challenge is to ask most of the authors | 16:23 |
besser82 | HeikoS: although LGPL would be somehow better thant BSD | 16:23 |
@HeikoS | besser82: I actually would prefer a "do what you like" license | 16:23 |
@HeikoS | not put any stones in the way | 16:24 |
@HeikoS | I want people to use my stuff | 16:24 |
@HeikoS | but anyway, lets see what the others say | 16:24 |
besser82 | HeikoS: LGPL is a do what you like license, mainly.... | 16:24 |
besser82 | HeikoS: It doesn't imply any inheritage of license like GPL would do... | 16:25 |
besser82 | bb_: please recompile with verbose and WITHOUT using sudo... | 16:26 |
bb_ | besser82 okay | 16:27 |
bb_ | besser82 verbose without sudo http://pastebin.com/KQTca8r2 | 16:47 |
besser82 | bb_: strange which version of ubuntu you are using?!? | 16:49 |
bb_ | besser82 Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS | 16:50 |
besser82 | bb_: lemme setup a vm and try to reproduce, please be patient... | 16:51 |
bb_ | besser82 sure | 16:51 |
bb_ | besser82 what do you think is the issue | 16:52 |
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besser82 | bb_: not sure, my current suspect is the version of hdf5 being used.... | 16:54 |
bb_ | besser82 okay | 16:54 |
besser82 | bb_: but as i said not completely sure... need to do some deeper investigation on that... | 16:55 |
bb_ | besser82 will wait, who is the expert regarding installation of shogun on osx... that installation crashed at the very beginning | 16:57 |
besser82 | bb_: try sonney2k or wiking. They do have a mac... | 16:58 |
besser82 | bb_: i'm actually the Linux hacker ;) Mainly Fedora && RedHat | 16:58 |
bb_ | besser82 thats good. i am just a basic user of linux and mac | 16:59 |
bb_ | besser82 shouldn't ubuntu behave very much similar to fedora and redhat | 17:01 |
besser82 | bb_: in it's basics, yes ;) | 17:01 |
besser82 | bb_: but not by the means of binary-compat and such ;) | 17:02 |
besser82 | bb_: installing ubuntu is so damn slow :( | 17:03 |
besser82 | bb: btw. why are you using ubuntu?!? There is much better alternatives ;) | 17:04 |
besser82 | bb_: btw. why are you using ubuntu?!? There is much better alternatives ;) | 17:08 |
bb_ | besser82 i am little use to it with my little experience plus when i used shogun couple of years ago that was the easiest platform to install on | 17:09 |
besser82 | bb_: i see | 17:09 |
besser82 | bb_: Try out Fedora ;) | 17:09 |
bb_ | besser82 what are the alternatives | 17:09 |
besser82 | bb_: Much better from usability && user-expirience compared to ubuntu ;) | 17:10 |
bb_ | besser82 i was fedora user before i switched to ubuntu | 17:10 |
besser82 | bb_: How long ago?!? | 17:10 |
besser82 | bb_: Within the last 1.5 years there has been much improvements to Fedora ;) | 17:10 |
bb_ | besser82 6-7 years | 17:10 |
besser82 | bb_: That says all ;) Fedora was something very hard to use back then ;) | 17:11 |
besser82 | bb_: recent fedora performs out all other desktop-linux by means of simplicity and expirience ;) | 17:12 |
bb_ | besser82 does shogun install well on fedora | 17:12 |
besser82 | bb_: I'm currently preparing an rpm for fedora ;) So you can install from packages ;) | 17:12 |
besser82 | bb_: no need to self build ;) | 17:12 |
besser82 | bb_: and yes it works quite out of the box ;) | 17:13 |
besser82 | bb_: even if you build yourself | 17:13 |
besser82 | bb_: ... brb ... 10 minutes | 17:13 |
bb_ | besser82 okay which version of fedora are you using | 17:13 |
besser82 | bb_: I'm on Fedora 20 pre-release | 17:19 |
besser82 | bb_: Relase will be 17th Dec | 17:19 |
besser82 | bb_: but I can give you some download url; just a minute... | 17:19 |
besser82 | bb_: http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease | 17:20 |
besser82 | bb_: Pretty stable, no real issues in there | 17:22 |
bb_ | besser82 | 17:22 |
bb_ | lets see if i have the time i will try it again one day | 17:23 |
besser82 | bb_: +1 :D | 17:23 |
bb_ | besser82 are fedore and ubunut still competing i thought ubuntu had won that battle | 17:24 |
besser82 | bb_: not really :( It's far to commecial ;) | 17:25 |
besser82 | bb_: And yes, Fedora folks are still working on being #1 :-P | 17:25 |
besser82 | bb_: like me ;) ---> https://badges.fedoraproject.org/leaderboard | 17:26 |
bb_ | besser82 oh good now i get it i better stick with ubunut | 17:27 |
bb_ | besser82 lol | 17:27 |
besser82 | bb_: Just can trust me. I'm totally unbiased :-P | 17:28 |
besser82 | bb_: I don't want to say other distros are bad... | 17:30 |
besser82 | bb_: but Canonical actually doesn't make Ubuntu a good community and all... | 17:31 |
besser82 | bb_: In fact Cannonical isn't even interessted in community :( | 17:32 |
bb_ | besser82 to you minute differences matter, when i was on fedore i had some network issues and had to restart it everytime from the command line and would freeze | 17:33 |
bb_ | @wiking can you please help with installation on osx here is the cmake http://pastebin.com/dqxi7rim | 17:34 |
lisitsyn | besser82: I bet you could sell some air if needed ;) | 17:36 |
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bb_ | @wiking this is the make output http://pastebin.com/7eCR4kcS | 17:40 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: hey there | 17:40 |
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besser82 | lisitsyn: Sure ;) Need some breathe ?!? | 18:17 |
lisitsyn | besser82: yeah sometimes I do ;) | 18:17 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: * LOL * | 18:18 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: To be honest: I'm a one-man-band-freelancer and need this skill to survive ;) | 18:18 |
lisitsyn | besser82: I wonder what do you do exactly | 18:18 |
lisitsyn | I mean what is that you are paid for :D | 18:19 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Risk-analysis for individual Insurance-contracts... | 18:19 |
lisitsyn | for example I sit in the office and pretend I code | 18:19 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: in cases like: JLo want an insurance for her bum-bum, I come into play ;) | 18:19 |
lisitsyn | hmm interesting | 18:19 |
lisitsyn | so you estimate what is the risk JLo loses her ass | 18:20 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: yes, some like that | 18:20 |
lisitsyn | but how do you manage to do that as a freelancer? | 18:20 |
lisitsyn | I was sure it is matter of big insurance companies | 18:20 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: you should work for Shogun! :) | 18:21 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: no money no honey :D :D | 18:21 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: then help on getting some :D | 18:21 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: yes, but they need someone who has the information and stuff... | 18:21 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: so, I'm selling this as-a-service | 18:21 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I'm mining data, use it and sell the result, not the data ;) | 18:22 |
lisitsyn | besser82: uh I see, interesting | 18:22 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: how? | 18:22 |
lisitsyn | besser82: is that just common cases or you handle some interesting stuff? | 18:23 |
lisitsyn | I mean don't they have anything for routine insurance | 18:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: only extra-ordinary stuff | 18:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: routine stuff they handle thier selves | 18:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I'm just called for special things | 18:24 |
lisitsyn | besser82: lala I just called to say I love you | 18:24 |
lisitsyn | :D | 18:24 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: but they pay da godd $$$ :-P | 18:24 |
lisitsyn | besser82: so you are kind of rich man? ;) | 18:24 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Let's say so: I can afford to eat meat every day ;) | 18:25 |
lisitsyn | besser82: what can say better is that you have your own real estate | 18:25 |
lisitsyn | if you do oh la la I see :D | 18:25 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I do ;) | 18:25 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: help gunnar to justify to give us money, make Shogun core BSD to be able to ask companies for collaborations/support, blablabla! | 18:26 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: find some girls, tell them they'll be models and pimp them :-P | 18:26 |
lisitsyn | hahah that's the plan B | 18:26 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: * rofl * | 18:27 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: however besser82's suggestion looks a bit better | 18:27 |
lisitsyn | how do you beat it? | 18:27 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn, whatever you think helps ;) | 18:27 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: oh I know who is from amazon berlin :) | 18:27 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: I met about 10 people who work there last week | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | even some of the institute I am currently at went there after phd | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | the guy was called andreas m?ller | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | scikit learn coder | 18:28 |
lisitsyn | yes I talked to him a few times | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | nice guy | 18:28 |
lisitsyn | he is like the main guy there | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | we should talk to them more | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | there is lots to learn from each other | 18:28 |
HeikoS1 | they have some really nice ideas that we could borrow and vice versa | 18:29 |
besser82 | bb_: there is really some trouble with your installation :( | 18:29 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: I would be much better to avoid spending our lives to do the same thing somehow | 18:29 |
lisitsyn | no idea what's the way around that | 18:29 |
besser82 | bb_: I CANNOT reproduce your problem on a fresh install && updated ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS... | 18:29 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: I know, but diversity is also good | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | no way to unify | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: we could talk to naywhayare to join us though ;) | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | he is very close to what we are doing | 18:30 |
bb_ | besser82 this was fresh vm i installed a month | 18:30 |
lisitsyn | I think he believes our codebase is sick in bad meaning of that word :D | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: well he is correct | 18:30 |
besser82 | bb_: Just build successfull on freshly installed vm ;) | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: still the re-write word is in my head, although I dont really believe in that | 18:30 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: but if we could modularise things more, it is easier to replace things | 18:31 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: yeah I am damn crazy about that stuff too | 18:31 |
HeikoS1 | like parameter framework | 18:31 |
HeikoS1 | thats a nice start | 18:31 |
HeikoS1 | you could go ahead with that | 18:31 |
lisitsyn | I am having troubles with time :D | 18:32 |
HeikoS1 | would be happy to join and try to integrate that into shogun | 18:32 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: I know that | 18:32 |
HeikoS1 | but will be better for me soon | 18:32 |
lisitsyn | not really time though | 18:32 |
HeikoS1 | after jan | 18:32 |
lisitsyn | I am having troubles with like being overwhelmed | 18:32 |
lisitsyn | sometimes I do have time but I am emotionally dead | 18:32 |
bb_ | besser82 so does it install cleanly with out any issues | 18:33 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: change job, come to europe ! :) | 18:33 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: ah speaking of having no time, I got to do some reading | 18:33 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: I will consider some cases once I get my msc | 18:33 |
HeikoS1 | way behind stuff due to last week | 18:33 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: yeah totally do :) | 18:33 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS1: in minimal case I change city | 18:33 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: yeah! | 18:34 |
lisitsyn | in maximal change country :D | 18:34 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: hehe :) | 18:34 |
HeikoS1 | lisitsyn: ok, gotta go, see you later! | 18:34 |
lisitsyn | see ya | 18:34 |
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bb_ | besser82 that is strange did you have to install all the libraries that shogun requires after you installed ubuntu | 18:38 |
lisitsyn | besser82: I should consider some job that is not that usual as programmer :D | 18:38 |
lisitsyn | like you haha | 18:38 |
lisitsyn | software engineering is boring stuff | 18:38 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: +1 ;) | 18:40 |
lisitsyn | I wish I built aircrafts | 18:40 |
lisitsyn | or may be feed polar bears | 18:40 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: In fact, I do all together ;) Sw-devel, marketing, $$$-job ;) | 18:40 |
besser82 | bb_: I actually installed all libs from ubuntu repos, but eigen3 | 18:41 |
besser82 | bb_: and appended `-DBUNDLE_EIGEN=ON` to cmake-cmd | 18:42 |
besser82 | bb_: because eigen3 from repos is way too old | 18:42 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: try to find a gap in enterprise buisinesses and aim it ;) | 18:43 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: that actually will gurantee you much $$$ | 18:43 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: and don't forget to make sure no one will find your business secrets ;) | 18:44 |
lisitsyn | besser82: haha | 18:44 |
lisitsyn | good advice | 18:44 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: you just need to find connection to the right people... | 18:45 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: and everything will go instant :-P | 18:45 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: and learn some entprise marketing skills :-P | 18:45 |
lisitsyn | haha way too much already | 18:46 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: three little steps, actually, like with agent oso :-P | 18:46 |
bb_ | besser82 okay do you all the libraries from cmake and just the 4 missing are mosek, arprec, colpack and cplex | 18:47 |
besser82 | bb_: yes, all libs, but the named ones | 18:47 |
bb_ | besser82 that is strange | 18:48 |
besser82 | bb_: and all runs smooth | 18:48 |
besser82 | bb_: at least on my vm, which may detect it's running on a Fedora host and therefore uses the-no-errors-possible mode :-P | 18:49 |
besser82 | bb_: dumb joke, I know :( | 18:49 |
bb_ | besser82 haha i dont know what is the issue should i try new ubuntu as i need to do a fresh install anyways | 18:50 |
besser82 | bb_: either newer ubuntu or try Fedora in the vm ;( | 18:50 |
besser82 | bb_: For fedora I can supply you with will-work-for-sure prebuild rpms | 18:51 |
bb_ | besser82 that is a lot of investment new fedora | 18:51 |
besser82 | bb_: reinstall is reinstall, isn't it? | 18:51 |
bb_ | besser82 all i want is shogun to work properly | 18:51 |
besser82 | bb_: Use Fedora and I have proven to work rpms ;) | 18:52 |
besser82 | bb_: which version of fedora is no matter you can take F18+ | 18:52 |
besser82 | bb_: with ubuntu i could try to get it working on 13.10 or such | 18:52 |
bb_ | besser82 what about osx if i can get shogun working on it i dont need vm at all | 18:53 |
besser82 | bb_: and give you pre-build binaries, hopefully | 18:53 |
besser82 | bb_: I really have no idea how to get that working on OSX... | 18:53 |
besser82 | bb_: The only ones who may help you with OSX are sonney2k or wiking | 18:53 |
besser82 | sonney2k: Are you there?!? ^^ | 18:54 |
bb_ | besser82 how many sonne's are there | 18:54 |
besser82 | bb_: sonney2k, sonne|osx, sonne|work --> all the same ;) | 18:55 |
besser82 | bb_: If can catch sonne on irc, you can write him a email: sonne@debian.org | 18:55 |
bb_ | besser82 okay wiking said he can install yesterday | 18:55 |
besser82 | bb_: read it... but I cannot confirm nor deny | 18:56 |
besser82 | bb_: I'm on Linux, only | 18:56 |
besser82 | bb_: Nor do I own any product with a bitten fruit | 18:56 |
bb_ | besser82 what should i read..... | 18:57 |
besser82 | bb_: not you :) I read it. sry for confusion | 18:57 |
bb_ | besser82 what if we disable hdf5 while cmake as iglesias had suggested | 18:58 |
bb_ | besser82 will it compile then | 18:58 |
besser82 | bb_: then a f*cking bunch of fetaures will not be avail :( | 18:59 |
besser82 | bb_: and I'm not sure whether hdf5 is needed for your use-case.... | 18:59 |
bb_ | besser82 like what kind i am thinking whether i need them | 18:59 |
besser82 | bb_: I dunno exactly, actually i didn't write any code of shogun | 19:00 |
bb_ | besser82 as i told you earlier i would like it to work natively on mac if not for the time being i can go without those features | 19:00 |
bb_ | besser82 can you help in compiling wihout those features | 19:01 |
besser82 | bb_: one thing that sparks my mind.... | 19:01 |
besser82 | bb_: which version of hdf5 you installed on ubuntu vm? | 19:01 |
bb_ | besser82 how to check for it | 19:03 |
besser82 | bb_: try `sudo apt-get install libhdf5-serial-dev` | 19:04 |
besser82 | bb_: that should install the version i used | 19:04 |
besser82 | bb_: I actually don't know how to search for installed pkgs on ubuntu... | 19:05 |
bb_ | besser82 sudo apt-get install libhdf5-serial-dev [sudo] password for beenish: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libhdf5-serial-dev is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded. | 19:06 |
bb_ | besser82 it is the same version and says the newest version | 19:06 |
besser82 | bb_: 18 pkgs not upgraded?!? | 19:06 |
besser82 | bb_: sudo yum upgrade | 19:06 |
besser82 | bb_: sudo apt-get upgrade | 19:06 |
bb_ | besser82 all it means is hdf5 library is the current version and you dont need to to anything | 19:07 |
besser82 | bb_: but there might be some other pkg which are never on my vm which get interfaced by shogun, possibly... | 19:08 |
besser82 | bb_: I want to purge all possible errors | 19:08 |
bb_ | besser82 i can remove and reinstall hdf5 library | 19:09 |
besser82 | bb_: might help and don't forget update the other pkgs | 19:09 |
bb_ | besser82 it is able to see the hdf5 library but not able to find the functions.. | 19:11 |
bb_ | besser82 that is not typical | 19:11 |
besser82 | bb_: yes, but the reason is why?!? | 19:11 |
besser82 | bb_: do you use a custom $ENV or such, like LD_PATH or so? | 19:12 |
bb_ | besser82 where | 19:13 |
besser82 | bb_: in your shell environment | 19:13 |
bb_ | besser82 no may be you hdf5 which are openmpi capable like https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/libhdf5-openmpi-dev/ | 19:16 |
bb_ | besser82 as the gcc compiler is openmpi capable | 19:16 |
besser82 | bb_: no, my vm has the serial-ver installed | 19:16 |
besser82 | bb_: the openmpi-version is sth very different from compilers openmp feature | 19:17 |
bb_ | besser82 is openmpi package installed in your vm | 19:17 |
besser82 | bb_: no | 19:17 |
besser82 | bb_: openmpi != openmp-from-gcc | 19:17 |
bb_ | it is on my vm | 19:17 |
besser82 | bb_: but that shouldn't give interferrence, otherwise that is a bug in ubuntu... | 19:18 |
bb_ | besser82 see this http://pastebin.com/Dye6RDLm | 19:24 |
bb_ | besser82 does you hdf5 installation give this kind or mesage | 19:24 |
besser82 | bb_: no, but i guess your install / vm is broken then :( Not a problem with shogun... | 19:27 |
besser82 | bb_: which doesn't mean i want to help :D | 19:29 |
besser82 | bb_: s/to help$/no &/ | 19:30 |
bb_ | besser82 what is that | 19:30 |
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besser82 | bb_: What? that s/// | 19:39 |
besser82 | bb_: a regex | 19:40 |
lisitsyn | besser82: speak people english or deutsch not regexpressions :D | 19:40 |
besser82 | bb_: it actually told you to insert a "not" before the "to help" in my previous sentence | 19:40 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: regex actually should be worldlanguage ;) | 19:40 |
bb_ | besser82 with that command what are we trying to see | 19:41 |
lisitsyn | besser82: how hello you are | 19:41 |
lisitsyn | besser82: reorder words to obtain correct sentence please | 19:41 |
lisitsyn | :D | 19:41 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: may I use that awk ? | 19:41 |
besser82 | bb_: the output of you paste? | 19:42 |
lisitsyn | besser82: stimmt | 19:42 |
lisitsyn | no idea if that's correct | 19:42 |
lisitsyn | my mind says that word fits there | 19:42 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: stimmt would be a positive answer for some statement, like "I agree" or "right" ;) | 19:43 |
lisitsyn | besser82: das stimmt? | 19:43 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: "Ja" would fit better here ;) | 19:43 |
lisitsyn | haha okay | 19:43 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: "das stimmt" would fall in cases of my first explaination ;) | 19:44 |
besser82 | bb_: your paste tells me there is some trouble with the ownerships and / or permissions of the basic-folders of your system... | 19:45 |
besser82 | bb_: but unfortunately not which and why :( | 19:46 |
bb_ | besser82 i am the owner of the this computer and all the folders inside it lol | 19:47 |
lisitsyn | I AM DA BOSS OBEY | 19:47 |
besser82 | bb_: actually I meant from the system's pov :-P | 19:54 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: You might be superman (tm), but i got that kryptonite(tm) ;-P | 19:54 |
besser82 | sonney2k: We can haz #shogun-social channel for such stuff, plz?!? | 19:55 |
besser82 | sonney2k: I mean that OT chit-chat... | 19:56 |
lisitsyn | besser82: haha | 19:56 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: let get it back serious... | 19:57 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: You want to make some serious $$$? | 19:57 |
lisitsyn | besser82: am I looking crazy to NOT want $$$? :D | 19:57 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: You always complain about stuff being too enterprise :-P | 19:57 |
lisitsyn | besser82: hah well yes enterprise software is like bad software you know | 19:58 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: +1 :) | 19:58 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: but RedHat ;) They do it the right way(tm) | 19:58 |
lisitsyn | haha except their website | 19:59 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: everywhere is something to so good :-P | 19:59 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I have some thoughts about Forex... | 19:59 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: There is lots of Binary brokers around.... | 19:59 |
lisitsyn | besser82: I have some forex experience | 19:59 |
lisitsyn | as like 'player' haha | 20:00 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: +1 | 20:00 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: :-P | 20:00 |
lisitsyn | I'd say it is some game when you do that with emotions | 20:00 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: How about trying to predict forex movements?!? | 20:00 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: like USD/EUR will be 1.2345 in ~15 Minutes or such? | 20:00 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: and writing some GPL'ed app to do that prediction | 20:01 |
lisitsyn | besser82: well it is not that easy | 20:01 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: c'mon SHOGUN::predict_forex_movement("USD/EUR", "15 Minutes") :-P | 20:02 |
lisitsyn | besser82: if that was that easy.. I'd get rich :D | 20:02 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Me, too | 20:02 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: but unfortunately i'm just half-rich... | 20:02 |
lisitsyn | haha I am rather poor then | 20:02 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I wanted to be a millie with 30 | 20:03 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: but then the EUR came and made all 1/2 | 20:03 |
lisitsyn | besser82: I have 7 more years to make your dream come true (but for me) :D | 20:03 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: that sounds great! | 20:05 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: that sounds great! | 20:05 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: So how do we want to get it done?!? | 20:05 |
lisitsyn | besser82: well become a gangster | 20:06 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Youre connected?!? | 20:06 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Or do we need to aquire the proper people first? | 20:07 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Let's get it sane... | 20:07 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Would like to work on such? | 20:08 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: an app to milk-off all binary-brokers... | 20:08 |
lisitsyn | besser82: well | 20:08 |
lisitsyn | IDK ;) | 20:08 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I do have good tick-data | 20:09 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: from ~2007 to present | 20:09 |
lisitsyn | it doesn't work | 20:09 |
lisitsyn | patterns evolve | 20:09 |
lisitsyn | signals worked before don't work now | 20:09 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: We have enough sources to train evolving patterns | 20:09 |
lisitsyn | AFAIK | 20:09 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: partially true... | 20:10 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: We just need 70% positive predicton | 20:10 |
lisitsyn | well yes | 20:10 |
lisitsyn | but that's already dead hard problem :) | 20:10 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: c'mon we can doooooooooooooooo it! | 20:11 |
lisitsyn | no I don't mind to try just takes time | 20:11 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: So I'm alone with that, I suppose.... | 20:11 |
lisitsyn | besser82: not really, I don't mind ;) and wiking wanted to go finance | 20:12 |
lisitsyn | it sounds like easiest way haha | 20:12 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: which is the easiest way?!? | 20:13 |
lisitsyn | besser82: get money from the field related to money | 20:13 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: as i am talking... | 20:13 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: we need an app to milk those bin brokers... | 20:13 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: the easiest way (tm) | 20:14 |
lisitsyn | besser82: one should know the trick to milk them | 20:14 |
lisitsyn | :) | 20:14 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: predict forex prices | 20:14 |
lisitsyn | everybody does that right? | 20:14 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: sure :D | 20:14 |
lisitsyn | how do you beat them? ;) | 20:15 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: asking you to help with developing an app ;) | 20:15 |
lisitsyn | besser82: easy if you have idea ;) | 20:15 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: we just need to classify the tick ffrom past... | 20:15 |
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lisitsyn | sounds oversimplified | 20:16 |
lisitsyn | ;) | 20:16 |
lisitsyn | X -> Y | 20:16 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: look for matching in current ticks | 20:16 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: and classify those, find simlar patterns in past and look what happened there | 20:16 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: that needs to be done for all pair influencing oneanother and *BOOM* | 20:17 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: we shoud be rich | 20:17 |
lisitsyn | besser82: that's like millions of people worked already right? ;) | 20:17 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: not exactly.. | 20:17 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: they didn't mind the influence of other pairs and such | 20:18 |
lisitsyn | well how many guys already tried to apply ML (you speak about multitask learning I guess) | 20:18 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: not so much i guess | 20:18 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Which usual-guy(tm) has knowledge about that ;) | 20:19 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: we just need some network for training the evolving patterns and such... | 20:20 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: make classifaction of current evolvement and try to find some closest matches of past | 20:21 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: r u still there? | 20:21 |
lisitsyn | yeah sure | 20:21 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: i'm trying to sell you some idea :-P | 20:21 |
lisitsyn | hahaha | 20:21 |
lisitsyn | I have no money to buy it haha | 20:22 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: need no money | 20:22 |
lisitsyn | just kidding ;) | 20:22 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: just need some guys helping with that | 20:22 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: with that thing we can rule the world ;) | 20:22 |
lisitsyn | I am quite sceptic ;) | 20:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: money, fat-ass tv, girls | 20:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: You don't want that? | 20:23 |
lisitsyn | haha | 20:23 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: buying Microsoft and retire Wincrap... | 20:23 |
lisitsyn | no that's not the thing - I just know it is dangerous to treat people in field X as idiots | 20:23 |
lisitsyn | because once you get into you realize you are getting there too | 20:24 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: c'mon! What would convince you? | 20:25 |
lisitsyn | besser82: well no need to convince | 20:26 |
lisitsyn | ;) | 20:26 |
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besser82 | lisitsyn: btw. I didn't get the meaning of your previous statement not fully | 20:26 |
lisitsyn | besser82: if you are not into some field | 20:27 |
lisitsyn | you tend to think it is easier | 20:27 |
lisitsyn | than it is | 20:27 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: got it ;) | 20:27 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: I come from the finance-business ;) | 20:27 |
lisitsyn | besser82: well lets have concrete discussions later then ;) | 20:28 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: Party time? | 20:28 |
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besser82 | lisitsyn: btw. when is later? When the thing is done && works?? :-P | 20:28 |
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lisitsyn | besser82: I can't work on this any time of this year I can say ;) | 20:29 |
besser82 | lisitsyn: So let defer to 2K14, then ;) | 20:30 |
bb | besser82 can we install shogun without hdf5 | 20:31 |
bb | besser82 that would be the best for now | 20:31 |
besser82 | bb: lemme check... | 20:31 |
@wiking | bb ping | 20:33 |
bb | @wiking | 20:34 |
@wiking | bb: what i really dont get is why you cannot compile as it really works for me | 20:34 |
@wiking | bb: but then again i've realised | 20:34 |
@wiking | bb: if u use 10.9 and try to use shogun 3.0.0 you'll have problems with libc++ being the default for llvm | 20:34 |
@wiking | bb: so i suggest u to try to check out the develop branch of the shogun repository | 20:35 |
@wiking | and that should really work for you | 20:35 |
@wiking | bb: i use macports libraries with shogun w/o any particular problems | 20:35 |
@wiking | bb: and i really compile every week at least twice shogun on my osx | 20:35 |
bb | @wiking okay when you say developer version how do i get that | 20:36 |
@wiking | bb: git clone https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun.git | 20:38 |
bb | @wiking okay i am try that now | 20:38 |
bb | @wiking this is the error i get http://pastebin.com/Vpy318Mm | 20:45 |
bb | @wiking when i compile do you want to look at the output of cmake | 20:46 |
bb | @wiking here is the output http://pastebin.com/fZhUYV28 | 20:48 |
@wiking | WTF is with your system ?! | 20:50 |
@wiking | why does it try to find pthread_spinlock_t?! | 20:50 |
bb | @wiking can we do something to fix it | 20:52 |
@wiking | -- Looking for C++ include unordered_map - not found | 20:52 |
@wiking | this is weird | 20:52 |
@wiking | bb: what's the output for uname -a | 20:52 |
@wiking | ? | 20:52 |
@wiking | Darwin welitron.local 13.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 | 20:52 |
@wiking | for me | 20:52 |
bb | Darwin Beenishs-MacBook-Pro.local 13.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 | 20:53 |
bb | @wiking looks identical to me | 20:54 |
@wiking | mmm there's majorly fucked up something | 20:55 |
@wiking | bb: how did u install developer tools? | 20:56 |
bb | x-code select install | 20:59 |
bb | @wiking from the command line | 20:59 |
@wiking | bb: mmmm i really do wonder as i really did almost the same | 20:59 |
@wiking | and for me it works flawlessly | 21:00 |
bb | xcode-select --install | 21:00 |
@wiking | bb: http://pastebin.com/8UL3zy6p | 21:00 |
@wiking | this is my cmake output | 21:00 |
@wiking | ah ok wait | 21:01 |
@wiking | it is different when i enable python modular interface | 21:01 |
bb | @wiking ok are you able to compile with python modular enable | 21:02 |
@wiking | bb: yeah i'm just doing it | 21:03 |
@wiking | bb: it was actually me who fixed python modular compilation on 10.9 osx | 21:03 |
bb | @wiking okay so you should be able to fix it my case | 21:04 |
bb | @wiking did it compile on your computer | 21:26 |
@wiking | bb: yeah w/o any problems | 21:58 |
bb | @wiking so what do you think is the problem | 22:00 |
bb | @wiking see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8177031/does-mac-os-x-have-pthread-spinlock-t-type it says pthread_spinlock_t is not supported on osx | 22:04 |
bb | @wiking and should be using https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/spinlock.3.html | 22:05 |
bb | @wiking do you have special library which handles the pthread_spinlock_t issue | 22:16 |
bb | besser82 any luck with installing it without hdf5 | 22:50 |
besser82 | bb: not yet :( | 22:51 |
bb | besser82 looks like i am stuck. i am not sure how wiking got it working on mac osx with pthread not captiple on it | 22:52 |
besser82 | bb: that's his secret possibly or he has some not yet publish patch or such... | 22:52 |
bb | besser82 need to be able to install shogun to work on the project.. | 22:53 |
besser82 | bb: I know we are working on it, I suppose, at least me is trying to to my best... | 22:54 |
bb | besser82 thanks for the help.... | 22:55 |
besser82 | bb: You're welcome ;) | 22:55 |
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