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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * a2a0629 / src/shogun/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a2a06292182a7543bb1872cb998636ad599643e2 | 05:25 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 05:25 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 9795470 / src/shogun/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/979547067b9eedbaec04b082ef603e1e5dadb6fc | 05:25 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2937 from yorkerlin/develop | 05:25 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 05:25 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 05:25 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1053 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/1053 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>, Bj?rn Esser <me@besser82.io> | 06:03 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #2729 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2729 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 06:16 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #80 of FC22 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FC22%20-%20libshogun/builds/80 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 06:19 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1095 of FCRH - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FCRH%20-%20libshogun/builds/1095 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 06:20 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #2718 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2718 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 06:31 |
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| travis-ci | it's Wu Lin's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/96902490 | 06:37 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: yoyo | 06:38 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #694 of deb4 - python3 is complete: Failure [failed test python modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb4%20-%20python3/builds/694 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 06:42 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 5af68ed / / (11 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5af68edff0f7ea7100c142d280307a0e7acaf350 | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: remove migration methods from all classes and blacklist depending libshogun examples | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :develop * d33ab5a / CMakeLists.txt: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d33ab5a464df684f92c426000969aa6fabe87d2f | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Make integration testing an option and disable it by default | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * c6f9d2f / / (12 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c6f9d2f2df14b0014a175212254ad293bb13fcdd | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2938 from shogun-toolbox/feature/remove_migration | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 06:44 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Remove migration and disable integration testing | 06:44 |
| wiking | HeikoS: you still in canada? | 06:44 |
| wiking | what benchmarks? | 06:48 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yes in canada | 06:58 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #382 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/382 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 07:00 |
| wiking | so what benchmark/ | 07:01 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #383 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/383 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 07:02 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: I just referenced you to one | 07:03 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: would be cool to maintain these like the unit tests | 07:03 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: so that we can at any point check how fast things are, etc. Helps discussions when we forgot why we decided things | 07:04 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: and how are things anyway? | 07:04 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: want to come to London in spring too? | 07:04 |
| wiking | mmm | 07:04 |
| wiking | but wait | 07:04 |
| wiking | so fuck | 07:04 |
| wiking | why do we do this again | 07:05 |
| wiking | that we roll our own benchmark | 07:05 |
| wiking | http://www.mlpack.org/benchmark.html | 07:05 |
| wiking | https://github.com/szilard/benchm-ml | 07:05 |
| wiking | let's try to use something that then we can objectively compare | 07:05 |
| wiking | to other stuff out there | 07:05 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: sure | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: for comparing high level that is better | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: but we have internal design decisions | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | like how we do certain operations | 07:06 |
| wiking | yeah i know that | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | this is just to measure the speed of matrix products etc | 07:06 |
| wiking | but i really think | 07:06 |
| wiking | that having first the highline thing | 07:06 |
| wiking | is better | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | how much to gain with GPU over CPU etc | 07:06 |
| wiking | than fucking around with speed of matrix | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | highline thing? | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | ah yeah | 07:06 |
| @HeikoS | agreed | 07:06 |
| wiking | first lets see why our kmeans sucks | 07:07 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: well lambday wrote the thing already | 07:07 |
| wiking | let see why we are slow in the algo level | 07:07 |
| wiking | i know | 07:07 |
| @HeikoS | would be stupid to loose it | 07:07 |
| wiking | i just dont see why is it good :D | 07:07 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah totally right you are | 07:07 |
| wiking | because essentialy | 07:07 |
| wiking | you can do this | 07:07 |
| wiking | with a good profiler | 07:07 |
| wiking | like perf | 07:07 |
| wiking | so no need for low level shit | 07:07 |
| wiking | that's my 2 cents | 07:07 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: ok then | 07:07 |
| wiking | we need high level understanding | 07:07 |
| wiking | first | 07:07 |
| wiking | have it automated | 07:07 |
| wiking | and have it for all the methods | 07:08 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: how would you go ahead | 07:08 |
| wiking | and actually on tengible amount of data | 07:08 |
| wiking | well either of those | 07:08 |
| wiking | could be a good starter | 07:08 |
| wiking | because they already have integration points | 07:08 |
| @HeikoS | its actually on my list to do such a thing, but dont know how: check all algorithm implementations and make sure they are fast | 07:08 |
| wiking | with other libs | 07:08 |
| @HeikoS | just going through mlpacks benchmarks you think? | 07:08 |
| wiking | that's why it's better to use something that is out there | 07:08 |
| wiking | yeah that could be one option | 07:08 |
| wiking | or the other... szilard | 07:08 |
| wiking | i mean that shit | 07:09 |
| wiking | if we cannot beat those | 07:09 |
| wiking | libraries | 07:09 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: +1 | 07:09 |
| wiking | we are definitely doing something very wrong | 07:09 |
| wiking | all of them are like java, python r based shit | 07:09 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: we could write a priority list of algorithms where we want to be fast | 07:09 |
| wiking | so you can imagine the performance | 07:09 |
| wiking | so if we are doing our job right | 07:09 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: its quite hard to beat well written python code in C to be honest and I assume thats the same for other languages | 07:09 |
| wiking | then we could at least beat those algos | 07:09 |
| wiking | by a factor of 10 | 07:09 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: any systematic idea? | 07:09 |
| wiking | doh? | 07:09 |
| @HeikoS | to approach that? | 07:09 |
| wiking | python | 07:09 |
| wiking | where the fucntion call | 07:10 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: I mean ML code | 07:10 |
| wiking | is a significant overhead? :D | 07:10 |
| wiking | come on... python itself is a shit | 07:10 |
| @HeikoS | where there are few function calls, mostly liunalg | 07:10 |
| wiking | when it's about performance | 07:10 |
| wiking | you have to use C extension in python | 07:10 |
| wiking | do have performance | 07:10 |
| wiking | but then the memory is always pumped up | 07:10 |
| wiking | because it's python | 07:10 |
| @HeikoS | agreed | 07:10 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: that would be a fun thing to work on together at a code sprint | 07:11 |
| wiking | yeah ah | 07:11 |
| wiking | so i wanted to reply | 07:11 |
| wiking | i'm gonna be in europe | 07:11 |
| @HeikoS | when? | 07:11 |
| wiking | between march and end of may | 07:11 |
| wiking | so any time between that time | 07:11 |
| wiking | would be optimal for me | 07:11 |
| wiking | to join the sprint | 07:11 |
| wiking | i'm gonna be in wien | 07:11 |
| wiking | so i can jump over to london anytime | 07:11 |
| @HeikoS | hey thats great | 07:12 |
| @HeikoS | so lambday is in london from 01.03 to 31.05 at least | 07:12 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: joins hopefully in march | 07:12 |
| @HeikoS | if you come, we are 4 | 07:12 |
| wiking | ok just tell me the days | 07:13 |
| wiking | and i'm there | 07:13 |
| @HeikoS | I talked to s?ren who is already interested | 07:13 |
| wiking | but fuck london? :) | 07:13 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3510 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3510 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 07:13 |
| wiking | cant we find a more expensive place? :D | 07:13 |
| wiking | or we rent a whole flat | 07:13 |
| wiking | for the group? | 07:13 |
| wiking | a pint of beer is soooo overpriced :) | 07:14 |
| wiking | and the coffee too | 07:14 |
| wiking | :) | 07:14 |
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| HeikoS1 | ah here I am again | 07:14 |
| HeikoS1 | wiking: last msg was fuck london | 07:14 |
| wiking | just sent you the history | 07:15 |
| wiking | via mail | 07:15 |
| wiking | :D | 07:15 |
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| wiking | basically that london is $$ | 07:15 |
| wiking | can we get UCL to give as a hack space? | 07:15 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3511 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3511 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 07:16 |
| HeikoS1 | wiking: I think yes | 07:16 |
| HeikoS1 | will sort that out when I am back | 07:16 |
| HeikoS1 | gatsby is in new building with lots of free space so might easily work | 07:17 |
| HeikoS1 | can share a flat from airbnb | 07:17 |
| wiking | k | 07:17 |
| wiking | let ssee | 07:17 |
| HeikoS1 | or if it is just the two of you, you might be able to fit in my space | 07:17 |
| wiking | still | 07:17 |
| wiking | pint and coffee is overpriced :D | 07:17 |
| HeikoS1 | can use gatsby coffee machine | 07:17 |
| HeikoS1 | new brewing equipment unfortunately ;) | 07:18 |
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| wiking | :D | 07:18 |
| HeikoS1 | wiking: what about creating a list with algorithms that are slow in Shogun? in Wiki | 07:18 |
| HeikoS1 | I guess SVM is fine | 07:18 |
| HeikoS1 | mostly all the GSoC stuff will be slow | 07:18 |
| HeikoS1 | because people just write it and stop once it works, never tune things | 07:19 |
| wiking | yeah | 07:19 |
| wiking | let's see what these benchmarking thigns | 07:19 |
| wiking | are doing | 07:19 |
| wiking | what are the algos | 07:19 |
| wiking | and then add some of ours | 07:19 |
| wiking | and see wtf | 07:19 |
| wiking | i need to wrap up my thesis correction | 07:20 |
| wiking | this month | 07:20 |
| wiking | so i'm a bit still busy | 07:20 |
| wiking | but startin jan | 07:20 |
| wiking | i'll jump in as much as i can | 07:20 |
| wiking | (just defended the thesis yesterday night :P)) | 07:20 |
| wiking | \o/ | 07:20 |
| HeikoS1 | really | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | congrats!! | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | didnt know | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | yeah we can do this in spring then | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | good topic for the sprint | 07:21 |
| wiking | :> | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | as well as sergeys plugins | 07:21 |
| wiking | indeed | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | and more code dropping | 07:21 |
| HeikoS1 | I like it that the last patch deleted 1.5k lines from the base class! | 07:21 |
| wiking | :D | 07:21 |
| wiking | i'll look into this month | 07:22 |
| wiking | about having parsers | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | and we finally disabled this stupid time consiming integration tests | 07:22 |
| wiking | in our stuff | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | need to unit test typemaps now instead though | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | ah cool | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | yea | 07:22 |
| wiking | but i wanna supporrt | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | would be good to be able to load data I guess ;) | 07:22 |
| wiking | big files | 07:22 |
| wiking | :D | 07:22 |
| wiking | that's why libarchive | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | yes exactly | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | I see that | 07:22 |
| wiking | so that you can directly read whatever.csv.gz | 07:22 |
| HeikoS1 | just need to make sure we dont stop there but also actiually implement a csv reader | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | or not implement | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | integrate | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | such things should not be in shogun | 07:23 |
| wiking | yeah | 07:23 |
| wiking | or at least | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | as well as all the old data structures | 07:23 |
| wiking | modulerized out | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | should go | 07:23 |
| wiking | with sergey's attempt | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | to libraries that are used | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | serialisation also | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | the code is so bad | 07:23 |
| wiking | mmm serialization is still good | 07:23 |
| wiking | :))) | 07:23 |
| wiking | come on | 07:23 |
| wiking | it's not that bad | 07:23 |
| wiking | it's abstracted nicely | 07:23 |
| HeikoS1 | I think it is | 07:23 |
| wiking | the shit i see nowadays | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | haha | 07:24 |
| wiking | this code in shogun | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | well I would prefer a nice linb | 07:24 |
| wiking | is amazing | 07:24 |
| wiking | linb? | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | lib | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | library | 07:24 |
| wiking | ah yeah | 07:24 |
| wiking | well | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | lisitsyn wants to just have a map of parameters | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | that is easy to store | 07:24 |
| wiking | some things we cnanot afford | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | and then you have serialisation | 07:24 |
| wiking | yeah | 07:24 |
| wiking | map | 07:24 |
| wiking | :))) | 07:24 |
| wiking | dont get me started on that :D | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | haha | 07:24 |
| wiking | but yeah at least hashmap is not that expensive in c++ | 07:24 |
| wiking | like in jvm | 07:24 |
| wiking | :> | 07:24 |
| HeikoS1 | hehe | 07:25 |
| wiking | but o | 07:25 |
| wiking | ok | 07:25 |
| wiking | i looked into a nice serialization stuff | 07:25 |
| wiking | but i truely believe | 07:25 |
| HeikoS1 | which one? | 07:25 |
| wiking | that once we have the modularized system | 07:25 |
| wiking | then we wouldnt care so much | 07:25 |
| wiking | having our own serialization | 07:25 |
| wiking | cerela | 07:25 |
| wiking | cereal | 07:25 |
| wiking | http://uscilab.github.io/cereal/ | 07:25 |
| HeikoS1 | wiking: I partly agree | 07:26 |
| HeikoS1 | sure then such codes dont hurt us so much | 07:26 |
| HeikoS1 | but the point is that we are a ML library | 07:26 |
| wiking | yeah sure i understand | 07:26 |
| HeikoS1 | and we should keep our code focussed on that | 07:26 |
| wiking | but as said | 07:26 |
| wiking | if it's just a module | 07:26 |
| wiking | we can leave it there haning | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | cerial sounds good! | 07:27 |
| wiking | hanging | 07:27 |
| wiking | and you can right away switch to another module/lib | 07:27 |
| wiking | if you want | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | serialisation is needed though | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | ah yes | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | replace | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | and then just get rid of old | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | I agree | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | good stuff | 07:27 |
| HeikoS1 | hey how do you want to fix that csharp build? | 07:28 |
| wiking | mmm | 07:28 |
| wiking | i was already digging in that | 07:28 |
| HeikoS1 | one way is to remove the two methods with the same signature | 07:28 |
| wiking | yeah no | 07:28 |
| wiking | :) | 07:28 |
| wiking | i'll try the better way | 07:28 |
| wiking | the thing is that this all comes from the typemap | 07:28 |
| wiking | definitions | 07:28 |
| wiking | and that's why there's suddenlty 2 params with the same name | 07:28 |
| wiking | i just wanna change that | 07:28 |
| HeikoS1 | wiking: as rename the parameters? | 07:29 |
| wiking | never really managed to have the full 2 days | 07:29 |
| wiking | to fix it | 07:29 |
| wiking | yeah | 07:29 |
| HeikoS1 | I want to release this week if possible | 07:29 |
| HeikoS1 | got some momentum at the moment, and a bit of time | 07:29 |
| HeikoS1 | sergey also helps | 07:29 |
| wiking | tyis weeek?!1?! | 07:29 |
| wiking | are you crazy? :D) | 07:29 |
| wiking | i thought we are doing release in jan | 07:29 |
| wiking | that's what lisitsyn told me the last time | 07:29 |
| HeikoS1 | when we met here, we kind of agreed to do now | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | and then another one | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | more releases needed | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | minor releases | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | ppl think the project is dead | 07:30 |
| wiking | yeah i get that | 07:30 |
| wiking | ok then do now a release without a fix for c# | 07:30 |
| wiking | i mean if you use old mono | 07:30 |
| wiking | it'll work | 07:30 |
| wiking | :D | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | ok | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | but its that patch that broke it | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | was working before | 07:30 |
| HeikoS1 | I just dont get what exactly breaks it, everything is hidden from swig | 07:31 |
| wiking | nono | 07:31 |
| wiking | c# hasn't worked | 07:31 |
| wiking | with mono 3.x | 07:31 |
| wiking | since ever | 07:31 |
| wiking | :D | 07:31 |
| wiking | maybe on travis it was working | 07:31 |
| wiking | since it's 12.04 ubuntu | 07:31 |
| HeikoS1 | yes | 07:31 |
| HeikoS1 | check before and after | 07:32 |
| HeikoS1 | the PR is sent | 07:32 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * ece1370 / NEWS: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ece13700f63f28c5e67660253813935ab5dd20e5 | 07:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Add latest PR merge | 07:36 |
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| HeikoS1 | wiking: ok I am going to bed | 07:39 |
| HeikoS1 | 2am here | 07:39 |
| HeikoS1 | n8 | 07:39 |
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| sanuj | anyone there? | 16:27 |
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| sonne|work | sanuj: yes :) | 17:09 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: yorkerlin :develop * 274a975 / src/shogun/lib/StringMap.h,src/shogun/optimization/lbfgs/LBFGSMinimizer.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/274a975c7b0ae879c16783027f54a398cf733190 | 17:12 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 17:12 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 3fce935 / src/shogun/lib/StringMap.h,src/shogun/optimization/lbfgs/LBFGSMinimizer.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3fce9353e9564305cfbd05ca1921d39c935ea963 | 17:12 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2941 from yorkerlin/develop | 17:12 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 17:12 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 17:12 |
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| sanuj | sonne|work: hello | 17:17 |
| sanuj | i'm installing shogun | 17:17 |
| sonne|work | sanuj: ok! | 17:17 |
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| sanuj | shall i install it using the latest release or from the develop branch? | 17:17 |
| sanuj | i need the python bindings as well | 17:18 |
| sonne|work | sanuj: depends on what you need | 17:19 |
| sonne|work | develop branch should work fine as well since we will be doing a release soon | 17:19 |
| sanuj | i plan to write a ipython notebook so i need the installation for that | 17:19 |
| sonne|work | sanuj: well just install it with the python bindings then... | 17:21 |
| sanuj | sonne|work: cool, thanks :) | 17:21 |
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| @besser82 | sanuj, hey which os are you on? | 18:34 |
| sanuj | besser82: linux mint | 18:35 |
| @HeikoS | ubuntu | 18:35 |
| @besser82 | sanuj, I see... possibly the ubuntu ppa will work on that one too | 18:35 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: yeah | 18:35 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: compile problems? | 18:36 |
| @besser82 | sanuj, was asking, because there are distros with redy2go packages of shogun | 18:36 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: i haven't compiled till now | 18:37 |
| @besser82 | like I'm maintainig the Fedora rpms | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: yes, and? | 18:37 |
| sanuj | besser82: yeah, i know | 18:37 |
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| travis-ci | it's Wu Lin's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/97011771 | 18:38 |
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| sanuj | HeikoS: i was just asking that, should i compile from the release version or develop branch | 18:38 |
| @besser82 | ahh, okie, you already got information | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj, it depends on what you want to do | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | if you want to develop, compile yourself | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | otherwise, check whether things you need are in last release | 18:39 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: write ipython notebook for now | 18:39 |
| @HeikoS | release is fine | 18:39 |
| @besser82 | sanuj, then the ppa will be the better choice | 18:39 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/2701 | 18:39 |
| sanuj | besser82: cool | 18:40 |
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| @HeikoS | sanuj: I see | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | cool that you work in this | 18:49 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: my work was mainly before last year's gsoc | 18:50 |
| sanuj | continuing back now | 18:51 |
| @HeikoS | great | 18:53 |
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| @HeikoS | sanuj: you can also look at using the new Shogun linalg interface to do NNs | 18:53 |
| @HeikoS | in particular for convolution operations | 18:53 |
| @HeikoS | since these things might soon run on GPU | 18:53 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: i was about to ask | 18:54 |
| sanuj | do you guys plan to have GPU support | 18:54 |
| @HeikoS | we do | 18:54 |
| @HeikoS | check Convolve.h | 18:54 |
| sanuj | cuda cudnn or something like that | 18:54 |
| sanuj | okay | 18:54 |
| @HeikoS | and Convolve_unittest.cc | 18:56 |
| @HeikoS | how to use them | 18:56 |
| @HeikoS | these things already run on GPU | 18:56 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: but if you can come up with a list of operations that are needed for the NNs let us know | 18:57 |
| @HeikoS | AFAIK, the NN code is also single-core | 18:57 |
| @HeikoS | might be good to think about multicore | 18:57 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: okay | 18:57 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: but convolution is already useful I uess ;) | 18:57 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: indeed | 18:58 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: did you ever edit some of the NN code in Shogun? | 18:58 |
| @HeikoS | Sorry I have a bad memory | 18:58 |
| sanuj | i solved some todo tasks that sergey listed in the deep learning project | 18:59 |
| sanuj | and before that | 18:59 |
| sanuj | did some clean up and linalg stuff | 18:59 |
| sanuj | docs in the beginning to get started with the contributing process | 18:59 |
| sanuj | it was fun ;) | 19:00 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: sounds good | 19:00 |
| @HeikoS | if you already touched linalg | 19:00 |
| @HeikoS | Another important thing we need currently: linear solves in lingalg | 19:00 |
| @HeikoS | but if you use the convolution interface in the exisitng NN code, that would be super helpful already | 19:01 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: i can look into it | 19:02 |
| sanuj | winter breaks here | 19:03 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: ha! | 19:03 |
| @HeikoS | yeah | 19:03 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: let me know if you need help with anything | 19:03 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: we really appreciate people doing things for Shogun | 19:04 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: so let's make sure you dont get stuck | 19:04 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: yes | 19:04 |
| sanuj | shall i start by the convolution part | 19:04 |
| sanuj | i'll have to see the code first | 19:05 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: yes, have a look at that | 19:09 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: if you can systematically replace all the convolution code in the NNs by the linalg interface calls, that is a huge step forward | 19:09 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: cool | 19:10 |
| sanuj | there are 2 backend for conv | 19:11 |
| sanuj | eigen3 and viennacl | 19:11 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: I need to go now | 19:16 |
| sanuj | will look into it tomorrow and get back to you | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: backend can be chosen at compile time | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | sanuj: that is the idea | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | that algorithm is *independent* of backend | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | so one can choose | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | without touching | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | see you later | 19:17 |
| sanuj | HeikoS: yeah i remember | 19:17 |
| sanuj | bye | 19:17 |
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| wiking | good morning canada | 19:19 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: jojo | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: lets change license | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | just do it | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | I think the list is small enough | 20:23 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: think thats ok? | 20:26 |
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| @HeikoS | yorkerlin: jojo | 20:30 |
| yorkerlin | hihi | 20:30 |
| @HeikoS | yorkerlin: how are the warnings going? | 20:30 |
| @HeikoS | we sill have loads of them | 20:31 |
| yorkerlin | half of them are caused by the coma | 20:31 |
| yorkerlin | hopefully, I can fix most of them tonight | 20:32 |
| @HeikoS | yorkerlin: make sure to fix them using regular expressions | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | not by hand | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | takes too long | 20:34 |
| yorkerlin | ok | 20:35 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2942 from yorkerlin/develop | 20:35 |
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| yorkerlin | any idea about automatic kernel learning? eg, The prox method and sprox method should work well for any kernel function, any mean function, and any likelihood. | 21:12 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 1e03142 / src/shogun/ (7 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/1e031427510057b1aaee6a27a00102b7e78feeb0 | 21:30 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2943 from yorkerlin/develop | 21:30 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: hey | 21:54 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: jo | 21:54 |
| lisitsyn | just got home | 21:54 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I can share .vimrc with you so you can check | 21:54 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: cool! | 21:54 |
| lisitsyn | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2fe55e42a2b60fffd966 | 21:55 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: any idea how to replace license consistently in all files? | 21:55 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ^ | 21:55 |
| @HeikoS | automatically | 21:55 |
| lisitsyn | uhmm | 21:55 |
| lisitsyn | sed.. | 21:55 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: do you know how to do that? | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | I mean remive all GPL | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | but extract names | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | and replace by BSD with those names | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | OR | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | we change even more | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | saying that we have Authors file | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | and dont distringuish individual files anymore | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | rather use git history | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | git blame | 21:56 |
| @HeikoS | thoughts? | 21:57 |
| @HeikoS | would be easier | 21:57 |
| @HeikoS | if all the headers would just be BSD license | 21:57 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I actually think we don't need full license | 21:57 |
| lisitsyn | in the file | 21:57 |
| @HeikoS | or even remove license | 21:57 |
| @HeikoS | and have only one file | 21:57 |
| @HeikoS | and it is "unless otherwise stated" | 21:57 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we can just replace | 21:58 |
| lisitsyn | argh irc crap | 21:58 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: shall we do that before the release? | 21:58 |
| lisitsyn | /** ... */ | 21:58 |
| @HeikoS | ? | 21:58 |
| @HeikoS | ah yes | 21:58 |
| lisitsyn | with /** This file is distributed by BSD 2-clause license. See LICENSE for more details */ | 21:58 |
| @HeikoS | or next release better | 21:58 |
| @HeikoS | good | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | next release | 21:59 |
| @HeikoS | and no more authors in the files | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | well it makes sense to have some | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | actually people are interested in seeing their names | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | so I'd actually do it like | 21:59 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | /** This file is distributed by BSD 2-clause license. See LICENSE for more details */ | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | oops | 21:59 |
| @HeikoS | how to keep that? | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | /** This file is distributed by BSD 2-clause license. See LICENSE for more details | 21:59 |
| @HeikoS | I mean how to extract names | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | @authors: [git blame thing] | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | */ | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | just anybody touched the file | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | ordered by number of lines changed | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | :) | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | easy to do | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | just assign it to me | 22:00 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: can you add and assign yourself? | 22:01 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 22:01 |
| @HeikoS | number of lines touced? | 22:01 |
| @HeikoS | no good idea | 22:01 |
| @HeikoS | since it gets outdated | 22:01 |
| @HeikoS | just if ever touched better? | 22:01 |
| lisitsyn | no I mean the order | 22:02 |
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| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: I see | 22:02 |
| @HeikoS | yeah go for that! | 22:02 |
| @HeikoS | good point | 22:02 |
| @HeikoS | We need to be a bit careful about some files | 22:03 |
| @HeikoS | but will do that when its time | 22:03 |
| @HeikoS | after release | 22:03 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we have to check the full diff afterwise though | 22:05 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yes | 22:06 |
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| travis-ci | it's Wu Lin's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/97071866 | 22:14 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 4c4d6cc / src/shogun/optimization/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4c4d6ccddd41b597c25a7c8f84cbeb51d0ab8020 | 22:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 22:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * ad768ab / src/shogun/optimization/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ad768abffa709abe99bc7347988d1d33826c90c5 | 22:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2946 from yorkerlin/develop | 22:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 22:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 22:26 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #390 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/390 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 22:29 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3518 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3518 | 22:30 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3519 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3519 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 22:33 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 2c135e0 / src/shogun/optimization/ (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2c135e0e2dd7ba3b93b8ed618a0b2806d62f3053 | 22:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 22:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 6973b1b / src/shogun/optimization/ (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/6973b1b2d63c71c60ff25105ee10378d3bb43eec | 22:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2947 from yorkerlin/develop | 22:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 22:36 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix python_modular warnings by adding API documentation | 22:36 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #391 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/391 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 22:39 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3520 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3520 blamelist: Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com> | 22:40 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok I see wu is making moves | 22:52 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yes | 22:52 |
| @HeikoS | pushed him | 22:52 |
| lisitsyn | cool | 22:52 |
| lisitsyn | I think I've got some time | 22:52 |
| lisitsyn | ok | 22:52 |
| lisitsyn | so cookboo | 22:52 |
| lisitsyn | k | 22:52 |
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| @HeikoS | great | 22:57 |
| @HeikoS | I can help/join | 22:57 |
| @HeikoS | let me know | 22:57 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok localized the problem | 22:59 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I am worried whether it would be cross-platform enough | 23:13 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: so? | 23:29 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: details? | 23:29 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: not clear yet | 23:32 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: oh there is one more issue | 23:38 |
| lisitsyn | we actually did it a bit wrong | 23:38 |
| lisitsyn | it should generate examples right into the build directory | 23:38 |
| @HeikoS | you have to explain me more, I did not get what you meant previously | 23:38 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yes that is true | 23:38 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: previous issue is that we only test on mac/linux | 23:38 |
| @HeikoS | though make install should also make them available | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | but should work on windows too | 23:39 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: shogun and windows? | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | haha | 23:39 |
| @HeikoS | haha | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | ok | 23:39 |
| @HeikoS | what is not portable | 23:39 |
| @HeikoS | you were using os.sep etc | 23:39 |
| @HeikoS | that should be ok | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | yes probably | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | ok | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I will continue moving stuff to build tomorrow | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | relative paths we had are ugly | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | should be parametrized | 23:40 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yeah | 23:42 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: agreed | 23:42 |
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