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@HeikoS | lambday: yes definitely | 00:00 |
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@HeikoS | lambday: but also the fact that it is easy to extend linalg | 00:00 |
@lambday | the 'custom(...)' thing is a good option for that | 00:00 |
@lambday | yeah | 00:00 |
@lambday | good that we discussed it man | 00:00 |
@HeikoS | yeah | 00:00 |
@HeikoS | and you smashed it with the prototype | 00:00 |
@HeikoS | so cool | 00:00 |
@HeikoS | It feels like this is how it should be | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | so hopefully we can use this stuff soon | 00:01 |
@lambday | hopefully | 00:01 |
@lambday | :) | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | I think we should aim to put the GP framework on the back of it first | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | since it is new, we dont really break compatibility | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | (because of c++11) | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | so a good test field | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | as well as all the NN stuff | 00:02 |
@lambday | HeikoS: if I get to work on that a bit, maybe I'll learn a bit of GP :D | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | these two should use the linalg first | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | if that goes well, we can use it everywhere | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | yorkerlin is very keen to put GPs on the GPU | 00:02 |
@lambday | yeah.. that sounds good | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: how's swig? | 00:06 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: no idea why it fails again :) | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | haha | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | ok, thats ALL shogun emails answered | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | phew | 00:07 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: thanks a lot for handling this | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | we got some good stuff going on with the benchmarks | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: I hope that someone joins me at some point | 00:08 |
@HeikoS | haha | 00:08 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: btw about the sampling | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | think about algorithms in terms of "how good per unit time" | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | you can think of a plot | 00:09 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: mcmc needs quite a lot of iterations in my experience | 00:10 |
lisitsyn | even for simple models | 00:10 |
@HeikoS | depends on what you mean by iterations | 00:10 |
@HeikoS | a single mcmc iteration has to touch all data | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | that is expensive | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | but good samplers converge fast if used correctly | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | but anyways | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | the point is: | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | mcmc gets arbritarily good | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | that is if you continue to run it, it gets better | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | variational does not | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | thats the main difference | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn, lambday see you tomorrow! | 00:12 |
lisitsyn | cool | 00:12 |
lisitsyn | I see | 00:12 |
lisitsyn | see you | 00:12 |
@lambday | HeikoS: see you! | 00:12 |
@lambday | me too leaving.. it's 4:40 AM here | 00:12 |
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travis-ci | it's Soumyajit De's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/117336348 | 00:25 |
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@lambday | lisitsyn: any idea on how to support namespace structure for class_list ? | 00:37 |
lisitsyn | lambday: haven't checked yt | 00:37 |
lisitsyn | yet | 00:37 |
@lambday | hmm me neither | 00:38 |
@lambday | this should be a useful thing to support | 00:38 |
@lambday | but for interfaces, how this is gonna work? | 00:38 |
@lambday | from modshogun import subnamespace - does it work that way? | 00:39 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: youssef :feature/bigtest * cea770b / src/shogun/multiclass/QDA.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/cea770b178316b7b874e24a963605f4f271c42bf | 01:09 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: remove rotations transpose | 01:09 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: lambday :feature/bigtest * cc68281 / src/shogun/statistics/experimental/internals/ (5 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/cc6828164c0e1a3c91372661e3e5b0d5333ae1e5 | 01:09 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: documentation and code-style changes | 01:09 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: lambday :feature/bigtest * fd95662 / src/shogun/statistics/experimental/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fd9566289a5a470a52a3110546440a5be973c5aa | 01:09 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: added hypothesis test (experimental) base class | 01:09 |
shogun-buildbot | build #3671 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3671 blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>, youssef <youssef.emad.attia@gmail.com> | 01:11 |
@lambday | good night lisitsyn | 01:13 |
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travis-ci | it's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/117349538 | 01:39 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #1102 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/1102 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, youssef <youssef.emad.attia@gmail.com> | 04:09 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: Sanuj :master * 4e01b47 / testsuite/meta/regression/kernel_ridge_regression.dat: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data/commit/4e01b47e352228ece11de6a1f395b59e1a7d6a66 | 12:59 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: update krr integration test data | 12:59 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: Heiko Strathmann :master * 77cba34 / testsuite/meta/regression/kernel_ridge_regression.dat: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data/commit/77cba34872e1cf4c4eabd4f9540daa4e0ea76b06 | 12:59 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: Merge pull request #85 from sanuj/master | 12:59 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: | 12:59 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun-data: update krr integration test data | 12:59 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Bugfix: 3075 | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix issue# 3075 | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Documented max_iteration | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 40228bc / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/40228bc1eedc6830036e2eea8cc147d02691f8e3 | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #3097 from Xbar/develop | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 17:10 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Bugfix: 3075 | 17:10 |
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@HeikoS | lambday: we could maybe have a subfolder for hypothesis testing, rather than statistics | 17:44 |
@lambday | HeikoS: yeah that would be good | 17:45 |
@HeikoS | lambday: hypothesis_testing | 17:46 |
@lambday | HeikoS: but what could be a good name for that? shogun/statistics/hypothesistest is quite a mouthful :/ | 17:46 |
@HeikoS | rename statistics | 17:46 |
@lambday | ah | 17:46 |
@lambday | yeah that makes sense | 17:46 |
@HeikoS | on the other hand, statistics also contains feature selection code doesnt it? | 17:46 |
@lambday | nah that's in preprocessor | 17:47 |
@HeikoS | but all these are dependence measure in some or another way | 17:47 |
@HeikoS | ah ok | 17:47 |
@HeikoS | well then | 17:47 |
@HeikoS | rename statistics (pretty useless name anyways ;) ) | 17:47 |
@lambday | cool | 17:47 |
@lambday | HeikoS: cooking dinner now :D will start in a while | 17:48 |
@HeikoS | lambday: what are you cooking? | 17:48 |
@lambday | btw does arthur follow cricket? he said something regarding the australian cricket team - today aussies are playing against bangladesh | 17:48 |
@HeikoS | lambday: eeehm, no idea ;) | 17:48 |
@HeikoS | he travels to Japan today so I guess he will just watch zombie movies in the plane | 17:49 |
@lambday | HeikoS: spinach - popeye the sailor man | 17:49 |
@lambday | hahahaha | 17:49 |
@HeikoS | haha :D | 17:49 |
@HeikoS | we got some nice south indian places here in London, I am really ucrious how you will like them | 17:49 |
@HeikoS | btw, any news on this visa thing, or just waiting for time to pass? | 17:49 |
@lambday | HeikoS: hehe I am not a big fan of south indian dishes in general.. | 17:50 |
@HeikoS | really?, interesting | 17:50 |
@lambday | HeikoS: yeah I cc-ed you the conversation I had with reign.. I gotta wait | 17:50 |
@lambday | :( | 17:50 |
@lambday | no other way | 17:50 |
@HeikoS | ok | 17:50 |
* lambday brb | 17:56 | |
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sanuj | HeikoS: there? | 18:00 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: yes, hi! | 18:00 |
sanuj | HeikoS: hello | 18:00 |
sanuj | HeikoS: we dont need a setter in train method right? | 18:01 |
@HeikoS | what do you mean by that? | 18:01 |
sanuj | llt will update the preallocated alpha vector | 18:01 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: ah yes, you pass the preallocated vector to the new method, which will update it | 18:02 |
sanuj | HeikoS: like 'eigen_y = llt.solve(eigen_y);' | 18:02 |
sanuj | yeah | 18:02 |
sanuj | so no need to set alpha again in train | 18:02 |
@HeikoS | but dont do the above | 18:02 |
@HeikoS | you will overwrite the labels | 18:02 |
@HeikoS | eigen_alpha = llt.solve(eigen_y) | 18:02 |
sanuj | HeikoS: yeah | 18:02 |
sanuj | i'll take care of it | 18:03 |
@HeikoS | cool, looking forward | 18:03 |
sanuj | HeikoS: so the solve_krr_system() will return void | 18:03 |
sanuj | or maybe a bool | 18:03 |
@HeikoS | bool is good, yes | 18:04 |
sanuj | cool | 18:04 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: point is to make it easy to overload this method | 18:05 |
@HeikoS | for the approximate versions | 18:05 |
@HeikoS | which are based on a different kernel matri | 18:06 |
sanuj | HeikoS: yes | 18:07 |
@lambday | what's ShoGaY | 18:13 |
@lambday | whois ShoGaY | 18:13 |
@lambday | ShoGaY: hello | 18:14 |
sanuj | lambday: i think it's a bot | 18:16 |
sanuj | not sure | 18:16 |
sanuj | ask wiking | 18:16 |
@lambday | I too think so | 18:16 |
@lambday | the name is funny haha | 18:17 |
sanuj | :P | 18:17 |
@lambday | why your name isn't coming on tab | 18:17 |
@lambday | :/ | 18:17 |
sanuj | sanuj: | 18:17 |
@HeikoS | troll bot ;) | 18:18 |
@lambday | san | 18:18 |
@lambday | nah no luck | 18:19 |
@lambday | haha | 18:19 |
@lambday | ShoGaY: commands | 18:19 |
@lambday | ShoGaY: dance | 18:19 |
@lambday | ShoGaY: boo! | 18:19 |
@lambday | useless | 18:19 |
@lambday | shogun-buildbot: dance | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | <(^.^<) | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | <(^.^)> | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | (>^.^)> | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | (7^.^)7 | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | (>^.^<) | 18:19 |
@HeikoS | https://github.com/karlnapf/kernel_exp_family | 18:19 |
@HeikoS | does this work for you? | 18:19 |
@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot: boo! | 18:19 |
shogun-buildbot | What you say! | 18:19 |
sanuj | haha | 18:20 |
@lambday | shogun-buildbot: What you say! | 18:20 |
shogun-buildbot | What you say! | 18:20 |
@lambday | HeikoS: was the link for me or sanuj | 18:21 |
@lambday | bangladesh making the aussies fight! some sight to behold! | 18:23 |
@HeikoS | lambday: github was down for a second | 18:23 |
@HeikoS | but now its back up | 18:23 |
@lambday | oh | 18:23 |
@HeikoS | so forget about the link | 18:23 |
sanuj | HeikoS: is that for your phd | 18:23 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: kind of yes | 18:23 |
@HeikoS | crappy python code is what you do in phds ;) | 18:24 |
sanuj | haha | 18:24 |
sanuj | cool | 18:24 |
sanuj | is it about to get over? | 18:24 |
@HeikoS | 1.5 more years | 18:24 |
sanuj | good luck :) | 18:25 |
@lambday | HeikoS: in UCL you're allowed to take another job while you're at PhD right? | 18:25 |
sanuj | lambday: how will you find the time? | 18:25 |
@lambday | sanuj: HeikoS does | 18:25 |
@lambday | I guess | 18:25 |
sanuj | shogun + phd + another job | 18:25 |
@lambday | it's really useful to have industry exposure IMO | 18:26 |
@lambday | sanuj: he's superman! | 18:26 |
sanuj | ohkay | 18:26 |
sanuj | :D | 18:26 |
@lambday | karlnapf is short for clark kent, in case you didn't know :D | 18:27 |
@HeikoS | haha dudes what are you talking about? ;) | 18:27 |
@HeikoS | im just doing my stuff | 18:27 |
sanuj | lambday: how | 18:27 |
@HeikoS | its only a side job | 18:27 |
@HeikoS | so all good :) | 18:27 |
@HeikoS | you gotta be good at context switching ;) | 18:28 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: ^ you like those right? | 18:28 |
sanuj | how karlnapf == clark kent | 18:28 |
@HeikoS | lambday: I wanna be the evil guy | 18:28 |
@HeikoS | not the nerd ;) | 18:28 |
@HeikoS | blast things | 18:28 |
sanuj | HeikoS: i read demis hassabis did his phd from the same place as yours | 18:29 |
sanuj | he started deepmind | 18:29 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: not phd, post doc | 18:29 |
@HeikoS | he worked here back when I first started | 18:29 |
sanuj | ohkay | 18:29 |
sanuj | nice | 18:29 |
@lambday | HeikoS: haha that's the rebel in you.. you're more batman then | 18:29 |
@HeikoS | half of deepmind's core is from gatsby | 18:29 |
@HeikoS | but these days they are big, so more people from outside | 18:30 |
@lambday | sanuj: just kidding.. | 18:30 |
@wiking | lambday: heheh i would never take job | 18:30 |
@wiking | next to a phd | 18:30 |
@HeikoS | the go guy, david silver, he used to be at UCL. | 18:30 |
@HeikoS | I had courses with him in my masters | 18:30 |
@wiking | that's my 2 cents | 18:30 |
@HeikoS | (where he talked about go in fact) | 18:30 |
sanuj | HeikoS: sweet | 18:30 |
@wiking | (i did that for the last 1.5 year... it's a fucking disastear | 18:30 |
@HeikoS | wiking: me neither O:-) | 18:30 |
@lambday | wiking: haha you're done with yours already | 18:30 |
sanuj | HeikoS: i was planning to watch his reinforcement learning lectures | 18:30 |
@HeikoS | they are good | 18:31 |
@wiking | lambday: indeed but that wasn't fun (the end) | 18:31 |
sanuj | HeikoS: i am sort of looking for things i can do research in.....mainly applications of ml | 18:31 |
@HeikoS | sanuj: good to look atound for a bit | 18:32 |
@HeikoS | before deciding what to do | 18:32 |
@HeikoS | wiking: I think it depends on a lot on the context ... kind of works for me, but I would not reccomend in general | 18:32 |
@wiking | heheh i would seriously first take about 6-12 months | 18:32 |
@wiking | reckoning | 18:32 |
@wiking | whether you really *really* want a phd | 18:33 |
@wiking | HeikoS: you work part time ? | 18:33 |
@HeikoS | yeah agreed | 18:33 |
@wiking | :) | 18:33 |
@lambday | wiking: that's what oracle offered me ... 24 months to be exact! | 18:33 |
@lambday | :D | 18:33 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yes | 18:33 |
@wiking | HeikoS: related? | 18:33 |
sanuj | wiking: yeah...phd is big deal | 18:33 |
@HeikoS | wiking: in a weird way | 18:33 |
@wiking | HeikoS: ok so not :) | 18:33 |
@HeikoS | wiking: haha, yes | 18:33 |
sanuj | i was am looking for long research interns for now | 18:33 |
@wiking | HeikoS: for me the problem was the writing part | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | wiking: what did you do? | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ah yes | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | I wanna do that without job definitely | 18:34 |
@wiking | i couldn't cope with writing thesis + work | 18:34 |
@wiking | because work was always more interesting | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | wiking: many people here have the same problem | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | yeah I can see that | 18:34 |
@wiking | than writing up things that you've already done | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | I wanna start wirting soon actually | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | to avoid this problem | 18:34 |
@wiking | yeah you cannot start early enough with writing | 18:34 |
@wiking | :D | 18:34 |
@HeikoS | wiking: but there is always things to do for shogun, so no time ;) | 18:35 |
@wiking | hehehe | 18:35 |
@wiking | true | 18:35 |
@wiking | i did that | 18:35 |
@wiking | remember when i was working a lot on the whole refactor | 18:35 |
@wiking | of the cmake? | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | wiking: but shogun is also nice | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yes, fucking suicidal | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | haha | 18:35 |
@wiking | back in the summer 2013 | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | but good in the end | 18:35 |
@lambday | ah good old days | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | people start touching the cmake files | 18:36 |
@wiking | ok so that was the time i 'started' to write up | 18:36 |
@wiking | ;) | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | as you predicted | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | haha | 18:36 |
@lambday | we had that configure script | 18:36 |
@wiking | so the cmake refactor | 18:36 |
@wiking | was the procrastrination | 18:36 |
@wiking | of my thesis writeup | 18:36 |
@wiking | true story | 18:36 |
@wiking | :) | 18:36 |
@lambday | wiking: haha really | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | hehe | 18:37 |
@HeikoS | nice one, at least it was useful | 18:37 |
@wiking | yeah but you dont wanna know | 18:37 |
@wiking | how long it took | 18:37 |
@wiking | to write up | 18:37 |
@wiking | ;)))) | 18:37 |
@HeikoS | I dont wanna know, you are right, haha ;) | 18:37 |
@HeikoS | it would just scare me so dont tell | 18:37 |
@wiking | so start writing | 18:37 |
@wiking | :>>> | 18:37 |
@wiking | !bender | 18:37 |
ShoGaY | Of all the friends I've had... you're the first. | 18:38 |
@lambday | ShoGaY can talk! | 18:38 |
@HeikoS | I gotta go now guys, see you later! :) | 18:38 |
@lambday | HeikoS: see you! | 18:38 |
sanuj | HeikoS: see ya | 18:38 |
@HeikoS | lambday: let me know when I can start using the testing interface.,,...excited to write an example | 18:38 |
sanuj | !bender | 18:38 |
ShoGaY | The auxiliary power's out, and they spilled my cocktail. | 18:38 |
@lambday | HeikoS: absolutely! hopefully I'll merge the whole thing by today | 18:39 |
@lambday | !bender | 18:39 |
ShoGaY | He's pending for a bending... | 18:39 |
@lambday | !bender | 18:39 |
ShoGaY | This calls for a party, baby. I'm ordering 100 kegs, 100 hookers and 100 Elvis impersonators that aren't above a little hooking should the occasion arise. | 18:39 |
@lambday | haha | 18:40 |
@lambday | enough | 18:40 |
sanuj | :P | 18:40 |
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@wiking | :) | 18:51 |
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lisitsyn | !bender | 19:39 |
ShoGaY | Those could be anyone's thoughts, fat ass! | 19:39 |
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