IRC logs of #shogun for Tuesday, 2016-03-22

--- Log opened Tue Mar 22 00:00:40 2016
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shogun-buildbotbuild #976 of nightly_all is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_all/builds/976  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Xbar <wishyx@gmail.com>03:06
shogun-buildbotbuild #1103 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test notebooks]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/1103  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Xbar <wishyx@gmail.com>04:12
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Xbar :feature/bigtest * 4a0654c / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4a0654cd7f4abcff58673fdfc3ff208d0444721506:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: Bugfix: 307506:22
shogun-notifier-shogun:06:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix issue# 307506:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: Documented max_iteration06:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: lambday :feature/bigtest * e3fd218 / src/shogun/ (108 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e3fd218ebe44b4b292ce2906382b89a9fb23493006:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: removed old files06:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: lambday :feature/bigtest * b67ab6e / src/shogun/hypothesistest/ (38 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b67ab6e357b7bd1ab73df18e2761c11ffd54d1a406:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: added rest of the files06:22
shogun-buildbotbuild #3673 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3673  blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>, Xbar <wishyx@gmail.com>06:23
shogun-buildbotbuild #3674 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3674  blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>06:23
shogun-buildbotbuild #564 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/564  blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>06:24
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travis-ciit's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/11763551906:59
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@wikinghuh08:01
@wikingthose one failed08:01
@wikingbig time :)08:01
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sonne|workwiking: what?08:31
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Saurabh7HeikoS, hey10:33
@HeikoSSaurabh7: hi there!10:35
Saurabh7hi10:35
Saurabh7Iwas trying to finish the proposal, you guys can see ours drafts right ?10:36
@HeikoSSaurabh7: we do10:36
Saurabh7HeikoS, ok , then i will wait for some feedback :)10:37
@HeikoSSaurabh7: you can also submit and update I think10:38
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Saurabh7in particular the project details i was wondering about that10:38
Saurabh7hm we can ?10:38
Saurabh7you can see the final only after appplication deadline i think10:38
@HeikoSlet me check10:38
@HeikoSno we have completed applications10:39
@HeikoSyours shows incimplete10:39
Saurabh7Upload a final PDF which Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox will see after the deadline.10:39
Saurabh7this is what it says10:39
@HeikoSI see10:39
@HeikoSwe will give feedback soon10:39
Saurabh7sure thanks !10:40
@wikingsonney2k: buildbot10:44
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arasuHi. I submitted a proposal for Hip Deep Learning yesterday.11:20
arasuPlease see the second of my submissions, the first is probably not accessible as I accidentally made it using my college account.11:20
arasuAlso, I saw the discussion a few days back about whether shogun should take deep learning seriously... did you guys reach any conclusion reg. it?11:26
@HeikoSarasu: can you delete the first?11:27
@HeikoSarasu: where was the question?11:27
arasuDeleted the first (Y). It wasn't a question but just a discussion on the IRC about keeping the neural nets package or not.11:30
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@HeikoSI see11:33
lisitsynhey11:39
@HeikoSlisitsyn: hi11:40
@HeikoScan you review the NN PRs11:40
@HeikoSand the proposal?11:40
lisitsynHeikoS: yes sure11:40
lisitsyntoday11:41
@HeikoSthanks a lot11:42
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@wikingaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:02
@wiking!bender12:02
ShoGaYWho are you, and why should I care?12:02
@HeikoS!bender12:05
ShoGaYI'm gonna drink till I reboot!12:05
@HeikoSwiking: aaaaaaa!!!12:05
@HeikoSwiking: saw my email regarding optional buildbot feature branch builds?12:05
@wikingyes12:09
@wikingi told you12:09
@wikinguse that try feature12:09
@wiking:)12:09
@wikingi'll narrow down the buildbot12:09
@wikingto develop + master12:09
@wikingPR test will run on anything12:09
@HeikoSwiking: yeah the try feature seems nice, but I guess a 'non-hacky' version would be good12:10
@HeikoSbut not important12:10
@wikingcannot do12:10
@wikingthe try is meant for the feature you want12:10
@wiking:)12:10
@wikingand it's not hacky12:10
@HeikoSwiking: ok then12:10
@wikingjust install buildbot12:10
@wikingpip install buildbot12:10
@wikingon your machine12:10
@HeikoSwiking: btw I once installed matlab buildbot on my work machine12:11
@HeikoSremember?12:11
@wikingyes12:11
@wikingi have now from gunnar12:11
@wikinga matlab machine12:11
@HeikoSwiking: also osx?12:11
@wikingnoup12:11
@wikingnot osx12:11
@HeikoShe also had one of those12:11
@HeikoSbtw we are one step closer to amazon credits12:11
@HeikoSralf replied ;)12:11
@wiking:D12:12
@HeikoSI will apply now and he told us he will see what he can do12:12
@HeikoSshogun-team is best email I guess right?12:12
@wikingys12:12
@wikingyes12:12
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Sanuj :develop * fa20711 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fa207114c7f88da33450893b38917279dde1604313:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: trian krr by using eigen3 llt13:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 2e789cf / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2e789cf61bb876b99164783904eb20240169c1e613:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #3098 from sanuj/krr_refactor13:50
shogun-notifier-shogun:13:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: trian krr by using eigen3 llt13:50
shogun-buildbotbuild #565 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/56513:51
shogun-buildbotbuild #3675 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/367513:52
shogun-buildbotbuild #2814 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2814  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Sanuj <sanuj.sharma.in@gmail.com>13:54
shogun-buildbotbuild #164 of FC22 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FC22%20-%20libshogun/builds/164  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Sanuj <sanuj.sharma.in@gmail.com>13:57
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sanujHeikoS: hello!15:39
@HeikoSsanuj: hi!15:41
@HeikoShappy?15:41
sanujyeah :)15:41
sanujone question15:41
sanujHeikoS: how to evaluate accuracy/error for binarylabels for linear svm15:42
sanujcookbook page15:42
@HeikoSCContingencyTableEvaluation15:43
@HeikoSyou can give this the type, i.e. accuracy15:43
sanujwoah okay15:43
sanujHeikoS: i was trying to use BinaryClassEvaluation but it's an abstract class15:46
@HeikoSI see15:46
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sanujHeikoS: did CAccuracyMeasure go extinct?15:52
sanujthere is no class with this name15:52
sanujbut it's mentioned in class_list.cpp15:53
sanujand some docs15:53
@HeikoSI know15:53
@HeikoSits somehow automatically generated15:53
@HeikoSuse it if you can15:53
sanujokay15:53
shogun-buildbotbuild #617 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/617  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Sanuj <sanuj.sharma.in@gmail.com>16:03
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shogun-notifier-shogun-data: Heiko Strathmann :master * 7fc0f88 / toy/two_sample_test_gaussian.dat,toy/two_sample_test_laplace.dat: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data/commit/7fc0f88cd62537eb3eda1aceddd63a5a5fe2311116:11
shogun-notifier-shogun-data: simple two sample testing toy data generated as https://gist.github.com/anonymous/07d68b1e8a4bfa71dd1716:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/bigtest * 430517f / data,examples/meta/src/statistical_testing/quadratic_time_mmd.sg: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/430517f3cbdc6f4949a0edf28b0199b530cf52d916:15
shogun-notifier-shogun: first meta example for mmd16:15
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/11773286017:39
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@HeikoSwiking: buildbot with the benchmarks would be amazinh18:24
@HeikoSas students started adding them18:24
@HeikoSwhich is good I think18:24
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@wikingHeikoS: :)18:34
@wikingHeikoS: infra18:34
@wikingthere's your repo18:34
@wikinghis your friend18:35
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@HeikoSlisitsyn: you there?18:47
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/bigtest * fddd926 / / (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fddd9268a60fd54ae871186fa4ca98a0cd9bf9dc18:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: Add an initial cookbook page for quadratic time mmd18:51
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sanujwebchat.freenode.net is down19:01
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@wiking!bender19:04
ShoGaYHe's pending for a bending...19:04
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@HeikoS!bender19:20
ShoGaYLet's at least throw this TV away, the batteries in the remote are running low.19:20
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/bigtest * 87aaa54 / / (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/87aaa54bd17e756e70adf9f5ea9d924170f9e2ba19:24
shogun-notifier-shogun: add linear time mmd api example draft19:24
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sanujwiking: lisitsyn: can someone tell me what is C in liblinear?19:50
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lisitsynsanuj: regularization coefficient19:51
sanujlisitsyn: thanks :)19:51
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/11777416819:55
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sanujlisitsyn: i'll share the first draft of my proposal for the plugin-based architecture project20:25
sanuji haven't started writing :P20:25
sanujbut i guess i would need some help with timeline and end targets20:25
lisitsynsanuj: could you please write me a mail20:26
sanujlisitsyn: cool20:26
lisitsynif you outline some questions I'd answer them20:26
sanujokay20:26
lisitsynI am a little busy right now but deffs will answer today-tomorrow20:27
sanujlisitsyn: no problem20:27
sanuji can ask Heiko or someone else20:27
lisitsynsanuj: that's fine - I just don't want to miss your questions20:29
sanujlisitsyn: cool20:30
sanujthanks :)20:30
lisitsynsanuj: so is it plugins and kernel methods?20:37
lisitsynyour projects I mean20:37
sanujlisitsyn: yeah20:37
lisitsynok cool20:37
lisitsynsanuj: what's your priority?20:38
sanujwell, i think plugins is more important20:38
lisitsynyes it would be very good for us20:39
sanujlisitsyn: i don't want to just do approximate kernel methods the whole summer20:39
sanujlisitsyn: i think plugins would be challenging, but thats nice20:39
sanujand i would get to learn about machine learning algorithms in general20:40
lisitsynsanuj: I created a branch starting some prototype of interface that is plugin-friendly20:40
lisitsynI think it was 'narrow_interface'20:40
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sanujlisitsyn: okay20:41
sanujthere is also this20:41
sanujhttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/dynaplugz20:41
lisitsynyeap20:41
lisitsynthat's different end20:41
lisitsynplugins themselves20:41
sanujokay20:42
sanujlisitsyn: i know decent c++ but i think not as good as lambday20:42
sanujis that fine?20:42
sanuj:)20:42
sanujof course, i can learn when needed20:42
lisitsynsanuj: yeah no worries, we just need a good plan20:43
sanuji know that installation project is the most important for shogun but i have no experience in that (and not much interest)20:43
sanujlisitsyn: what are the next important projects?20:44
sanujlisitsyn: that are very likely to happen20:44
lisitsynsanuj: I think top 3 are plugins, installation and 'usual suspects'20:45
lisitsynbut everything could change20:45
sanujlisitsyn: i haven't done much benchmarking20:46
sanujso plugins is my best bet :)20:47
sanujlisitsyn: do you have any prior suggestions for writing the plugin proposal :)20:49
sanuji'll start writing it tomorrow20:49
lisitsynsanuj: yes - you need to understand what problem we're trying to solve20:50
lisitsynsanuj: it could be not that clear but don't hesitate to gather more information ;)20:51
sanujlisitsyn: okay, i have read https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/GSoC_2015_plugin20:51
sanujand the links in it20:51
sanujI think the best thing is to write the proposal and then i'll ask ;)20:52
lisitsynsanuj: alright20:52
sanujin short shogun code is big, not well managed and API is not much user friendly....we need to change the architecture to improve all this20:53
lisitsynyeap20:54
sanujlisitsyn: i read https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/New-parameters-framework-and-plugins20:54
sanujthis gives a good outline of what we want to do20:54
lisitsynoh yeah that's what Heiko forced me to write at NIPS20:54
sanujbut i haven't looked at the new code20:55
sanujhaha20:55
sanujit's good20:55
sanuj;)20:55
lisitsynI even bring him a coffee but he still forced me to write it20:56
sanujlisitsyn: haha20:56
sanujdid you present it somewhere?20:56
lisitsynpresent what?20:57
sanujlisitsyn: shogun toolbox20:57
sanujlisitsyn: do people use shogun in their research20:58
lisitsynah20:58
lisitsynwell it was presented a few times in past20:58
sanujwe have good algorithms but we need to improve the outreach20:58
lisitsynyeah some algorithms like MKL are shogun-only20:58
lisitsynthat attracts people20:58
sanujokay20:59
lisitsynbut indeed not as popular as other things like sklearn20:59
lisitsynmostly due to installation issues btw20:59
sanujlisitsyn: yes20:59
sanujwe do better on benchmark tests mostly ;)21:00
sanujlisitsyn: with the rise of deep learning, i think most of the things in ml are going to go in that direction21:00
lisitsynsanuj: nah you don't always have that big data21:01
lisitsynsanuj: even I sometimes have small datasets at job21:01
lisitsyneven though we operate tera-scale21:01
sanujlisitsyn: ohkay21:01
sanujwe need to make corporates use shogun ;)21:02
lisitsynsanuj: its mostly a myth that everything is going to be replaced with DL :)21:02
sanujhaha21:02
sanuji have mostly done that till now21:02
sanujtrained CNNs for my bachelors thesis project21:03
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sanujlisitsyn: https://github.com/sanuj/nuclei-net21:04
sanuji have better results, haven't updated them21:04
sanujwill do before the proposal submission ;)21:04
lisitsynsanuj: have you already tried all that fancy new stuff?21:05
lisitsynbatch norm, residual net?21:05
sanujnope :P21:05
sanujjust trained a cnn without batch norm21:06
sanujthe results were good enough21:06
sanujthe current results which are on github are bad21:06
sanuji have better ones but lazy to update :P21:07
lisitsynsanuj: its easy to include state of the art things now21:07
sanujlisitsyn: yeah21:07
lisitsynbecause they are usually slight change to architecture21:07
sanujml in bio has lots of opportunities21:08
sanujlisitsyn: now that i'm about to graduate, i'm thinking of doing interns related to that21:08
lisitsynsanuj: just add some smoke and mirrors :D21:14
lisitsynwith the hype should be possible to get something21:14
sanujhaha21:15
sanujhttps://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/11779483821:15
sanujruby has problem with enums21:16
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sanujlisitsyn: going to sleep21:17
sanujlisitsyn: see ya21:18
lisitsynsee you21:18
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@lambdaylisitsyn: hey.. are we doing that tag based setter/getter thing this summer?21:41
lisitsynlambday: probblly21:43
@wiking:>21:43
lisitsynit makes sense to provide old + new interfaces at the same time21:44
lisitsynthen drop21:44
@lambdayyeah21:45
@wikingok21:45
@wikinghere is my proof of point21:45
@wikinghttps://github.com/jaraco/irc21:45
@lambdaywiking: backward compatibility? ;)21:45
@wiking:)21:45
@wikinglisitsyn: i hope you get it21:46
lisitsynwiking: nah we'd have to become irc first21:46
@wiking:)21:47
lisitsynwiking: show me the website of shogunconf'16 in san francisco  ;)21:48
@lambdayup to how many constructor parameters its okay, then it becomes annoying? 3? 4?21:48
lisitsynwith all these guests from google and cisco21:48
@lambdayhahaha21:48
lisitsynor even - lets just post a big thing at our website21:49
lisitsynwe gonna break the api, who minds that21:49
@wikinglisitsyn: :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD21:49
lisitsynpress the button please if you don't want it to break21:49
@wikinglisitsyn: yep you are actually (unfortunately) totally right21:50
@wiking:)21:50
lisitsynso lets make the good api first then make it stable ;)21:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: lambday :feature/bigtest * 4e5f4dc / / (129 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4e5f4dc6760f6d6f6209b83518d58207f70d283521:50
shogun-notifier-shogun: fix build issues21:50
@wikingbtw you break whatever api you want :D21:50
lisitsynwiking: currently we have to bump the version if we add get_l2_ratio_of_something21:52
@wikingyep21:52
@wikingmmm anybody familiar with hdf5 api21:53
@wiking?21:53
lisitsynno21:54
@wikinganybody actually ever uses hdf5 for datasets?21:54
lisitsynI am not21:54
@wikingi mean the problem is that i rewrite the whole io21:55
@wikingbut now i'm looking at this hdf521:55
@wikingand it's not possible to use21:55
@wikingvoid* data21:55
lisitsynhaha21:55
@wikingto stream the hdf5 content21:55
lisitsynuse another level of indirection you know21:55
@wikingok but what level21:55
@wikinghdf5 only allows to open like const char* fname21:56
lisitsynuh21:57
@wikingoh but wait21:58
@wikingit has a c++ api21:58
@wiking:D21:58
@wikingwhat a happy day21:58
@wiking:D21:58
lisitsynlol21:58
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@wikingooooh why o why22:24
@wiking:(22:24
@wikingHeikoS HeikoS why are you so rude? :)22:30
@HeikoSwiking: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah22:30
@HeikoSwhats going on22:30
@HeikoSI cant distinguish from spam ;)22:30
@wiking:D22:30
@wikingbtw zoq told me how to have that watchdog22:30
@wikingdoesn't sound toooo complicated22:30
@wikingwe definitely would like ot have that22:30
@wiking*to22:31
@HeikoSwiking: yeah would be great in fact22:31
@HeikoSalso if we could run some benchmarks nightly would be good22:31
@HeikoSso that we get these tables automatically22:31
@HeikoSthen we dont need to ask students to paste on github22:32
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shogun-notifier-shogun: OXPHOS :develop * ab1fbe4 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ab1fbe4656f10b1b49e073e6514e3168245545ec22:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Squashed-Vector_Mean_Eigen322:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * a878940 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a878940f2b144f3328edd9706ad203ca55e1f3b522:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #3096 from OXPHOS/add_mean_in_linalg22:43
shogun-notifier-shogun:22:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Implement Vector Mean in linalg22:43
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@HeikoSlisitsyn: are you still alive? :D23:01
@wikingwhat's with the website?23:02
@HeikoSlisitsyn: said pending access rights23:02
@wiking:D23:02
@wikingwhich what?23:02
@wikingwhat ya need lisitsyn ?23:02
@wikingno vodka here23:02
@wiking!bender23:03
ShoGaYYou all go without me. I'm gonna take one last look around. You know, for, uh, stuff to steal.23:03
@HeikoS!lisitsyn23:03
lisitsynwiking: hey23:04
lisitsynok23:04
lisitsynI need sumthing23:05
lisitsynwiking: init.d or something23:05
lisitsynany way to run service23:05
@wikingtell me what :)23:07
lisitsynwiking: I need access that is enough to restart a service :/23:07
lisitsynor I need some other workaround23:07
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lisitsynwiking: basically I need to restart after commit23:08
lisitsynwell I can use some custom service-like thing..23:09
@HeikoSwiking: you aware the cereal is c++11?23:15
@HeikoSwiking: I might do another push for this c++11 again thing soon  ... too many gains to not take here, no users to loose....endless discussion to have23:18
@HeikoScan make seralization c++11 only feature .....23:18
@HeikoSor have both .... which is exactly what I not want23:18
@HeikoSso rather only allow with modern compiker23:19
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