IRC logs of #shogun for Thursday, 2017-03-02

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PyAnkitHello everyone,I use python for machine learning and so where can I start  from so as to contribute for machine learning?03:29
@wikinghi03:56
@wikingPyAnkit, if you are interested working on shogun03:56
@wikingthen please refer to our wiki03:56
@wikingthere are plenty information03:56
@wikinghow to get started03:56
PyAnkitSure03:57
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@sukeyPull Request #3669 "LinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB"  opened by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366905:48
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@sukeyPull Request #3669 "LinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB"  synchronized by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366907:02
@sukeyPull Request #3669 "LinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB"  synchronized by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366907:03
@wikingOXPHOS, here?07:23
@sukeyPull Request #3670 "LinalgRefactor - enable GPU_WARNINGS switch"  opened by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/367007:25
@sukeyPull Request #3669 "LinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB"  synchronized by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366907:25
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shogun-buildbotbuild #58 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/58  blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>, Tiramisu 1993 <sabergeass@gmail.com>08:00
lisitsynwiking: how do you like *the amalgamation*? :D08:43
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Saurabh7_`Stan models are defined via the Stan language, which is then parsed by the Stan compiler and translated to C++ code, which itself is then compiled to a binary. This binary contains the model and everything that is needed to perform sampling/optimisation on it. In particular, the Stan compiler performs automatic differentiation to generate C++ code for all gradients of the user-defined log-pdf code of the model.09:47
Saurabh7_ok i am done09:47
Saurabh7_ignore pls ^09:50
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iRmantouI msbuilded it with "-DBUILD_META_EXAMPLES=ON"under win10 ,now i think it's may not a good idea.10:28
iRmantouthere are many LINK:fatal error LNK1102: out of memory. most of them are in the "shogun\build\examples\"  i think i shoud make the examples after msbuild shogun10:32
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ayushHello everyone, My name is Ayush and I would like to be a contributor to shogun and possibly be a candidate for this years GSOC. I am really new to the world of open source and it would be nice if I could get some guidance in order to get started with shogun.11:06
sanujayush: hi! you can find the projects list and instructions to get started here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202017%20Projects11:09
ayushsanuj: hi! Thanks for responding. I have read that page and I found SHOGUN DETOX II to be quite interesting because I think it is the project that will help me learn the most about shogun and machine learning.11:12
ayushmy main motive is to learn and gsoc is a secondary objective for me11:13
ayushcan you please point me to where i can start to read about and understand shogun in order to start making small contributions asap?11:14
iRmantouhttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Getting-involved11:16
sanujayush: That's great. I suggest you start by sending small PRs. Pick an issue with 'entrance' tag.11:16
iRmantoui am a new one too. This link may help u11:17
sanujayush iRmantou Yeah, that should be helpful. :)11:18
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ayushThanks a lot sanuj and iRmantou. :)11:19
@sukeyPull Request #3667 "Fix data races in CCrossValidation::evaluate_one_run()"  synchronized by lkuchenb - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366711:28
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@wikinglisitsyn, what hwhat who?11:57
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lisitsynwiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/GSoC_2017_Amalgamation11:59
@wikinglolface12:00
@wikingyeah let's finish the js typemaps :D12:00
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CaBaheya wiking12:07
@wikingCaBa, y012:07
@wikingis it green already?12:07
CaBajust appveyor. what do we do about the remaining problem?12:08
@wikingwhihc?12:08
@wikingwhere?12:08
CaBawiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/366812:08
@wikingah but wait12:08
@wikingdid i get that right12:09
@wikingthat you have not seen errors12:09
@wikingjust with valgrind?12:09
CaBayou mean memcheck?12:09
@wikingno i mean helgrind12:09
CaBahelgrind throws errors like crazy :P12:09
CaBathat's why i wanted to remove the parallel for... to generate a suppression file. but showhow that doesn't seem to work for me either and anyways also revealed, that the test still fails *without* parallel for12:10
@wikingyou mean the CV fails12:12
@wikingok btw12:12
@wikingto switch between parallel execution12:12
@wikingor not12:12
@wikinguse the env var12:12
@wikingSHOGUN_NUM_THREAD=112:12
@wikingSHOGUN_NUM_THREAD=1012:12
@wikingso this way w/o recompiling12:12
@wikingyou can change the number of threads omp will be able to uuse12:12
CaBawiking: i see, good to know. in this case however it was good to leave the non-xval code parallel, since that seems to be a potential issue12:13
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@wikingok mergeing your pr12:19
@sukeyPull Request #3667 "Fix data races in CCrossValidation::evaluate_one_run()"  merged by vigsterkr - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366712:20
@sukeyNew Commit "Merge pull request #3667 from lkuchenb/fix/parallelXval12:20
@sukeyFix data races in CCrossValidation::evaluate_one_run()" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by vigsterkr: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4f1670e3ecc785d1f193c55ae27aa1ba58c34cbd12:20
sanujlisitsyn: What is going to happen to tags and plugins?12:25
@HeikoSsanuj: hi there12:26
@HeikoSsanuj: tags will be integrated soon12:26
@HeikoSat latest at our hackathon12:26
@HeikoSplan is to remove all member variables, make them tags12:27
@HeikoSremove all old parameter code12:27
@HeikoSfeel free to work on that in the feature branch12:27
@HeikoSsanuj: we first need to to a PoC for a single class12:27
sanujHeikoS: hi :)12:27
sanujWhen is the hackathon??12:28
@HeikoSapril in zurich12:28
sanujAh, I see.12:28
@HeikoSsanuj: but the more we do before that the better12:29
@HeikoSsanuj: I mean it is merged, we just need to deploy oit12:29
CaBahow do we proceed? if any of you is more familiar with helgrind or has other means of debugging this, i think this should be investigated...12:29
@HeikoSsanuj: you are the best person to push this12:29
@HeikoSCaBa: what exactly do you mean?12:29
sanujHeikoS: I understand, I'll find time this month and try to push some code.12:30
@HeikoSit is really smallish steps12:30
@HeikoSjust trying it example by example and see whether the build still works12:30
CaBaHeikoS: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/366812:31
shogun-buildbotbuild #104 of CentOS7 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/CentOS7%20-%20libshogun/builds/10412:31
@HeikoSI see12:33
sanujHeikoS: I have forgotten most of the stuff I did last year. It's good I wrote a readme. :) I'll update myself and start deploying it.12:33
@HeikoSah thanks for the detailed investigation12:33
@HeikoSsanuj: yep! :)12:33
sanujHeikoS: But iirc plugins were still incomplete.12:33
@HeikoSsanuj: dont worry a about plugins for now12:33
@HeikoStags/cereal needs to be fully in first12:34
sanujHeikoS: sure thing.12:35
sanujHeikoS: when are you defending your thesis? :D12:35
@HeikoSdont know yet :D12:36
sanujI saw the MMD ICLR paper in which you used shogun.12:36
@HeikoSsanuj: yep12:50
@HeikoSpartly at least12:50
@HeikoSlamday wrote some really fast stuff that helped us12:50
sanujnice12:51
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sanujHeikoS: is lamday still in london?12:53
@HeikoSnope12:53
@HeikoSsanuj: might come back at some point12:56
@HeikoSCaBa: so if you could investigate this thing further, that would be best12:56
@HeikoSCaBa: I think this issues also touches the const clearness within Shogun12:56
@HeikoSCaBa: think about it: cross-validation should not alter the data at all right?12:57
@HeikoSand the machine (and all its parameters) are cloned12:57
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@HeikoSso there is no reason for problems actually, it is just coming from the fact that we allow these things12:57
sanujcool!12:59
@sukeyPull Request #3669 "LinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB"  merged by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366913:07
@sukeyNew Commit "Merge pull request #3669 from OXPHOS/linalg_temp13:07
@sukeyLinalgRefactor - remove HAVE_LINALG_LIB" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e4e6def45c0d1e2c5a213c19b2ac68921aeefe4c13:07
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travis-ciit's Viktor Gal's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/20695985813:10
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CaBaHeikoS: well yes, structural problems in shogun make this harder indeed. i just really don't have the time to go deep into this, i have to write my entire thesis in only three months and finish this ML project and make it a paper, i know none of this is your business and the two of you are in your own troubles, i'm just digging deeper and deeper into shogun internals than i should...13:22
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@HeikoSCaBa: hehe, welcome to open source13:31
@HeikoSCaBa: well it is probably fixable otherwise, you are right the rest is shogun's structural problem13:32
@HeikoSCaBa: thesis fun!13:32
CaBa"fun" *sigh*13:35
@HeikoSIll be there soon as well13:35
CaBabest of luck... i certainly need a healthier occupation after ;)13:38
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/20697232214:05
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@sukeyPull Request #3664 "fix build warning for all KNNSolvers"  synchronized by MikeLing - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366414:11
@sukeyPull Request #3664 "Use SGVector instead of pointer in KNN solvers and fix the warning when building KNNSolvers" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366414:13
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@sukeyPull Request #3665 "Fix `make cookbook` when certain cookbooks are guarded"  synchronized by geektoni - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366514:30
@sukeyPull Request #3665 "Fix `make cookbook` when certain cookbooks are guarded"  synchronized by geektoni - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366514:40
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yyfhello ,when i install shogun by brew directly under MAC OS,how can i generate examples?14:50
yyfi have a bit trouble with"make meta_example" ,need cmake -DBUILD_META_EXAMPLES=ON?14:51
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yyfthese questron may stupid,sry,please14:52
@HeikoSyyf: no worries15:04
@HeikoSyyf: I dont know whether the brew installation enables them automatically15:04
@HeikoSbut you can compile by hand to get full control15:04
@HeikoSyyf: brew might be outdated btw15:05
@HeikoShttps://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-science/blob/master/shogun.rb15:05
yyfi know this ,should i vim it?15:05
yyfthank u15:05
@HeikoSif you want to modify examples etc, you need to compile by hand anyways15:05
yyfok,i got it    :)15:06
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@sukeyPull Request #3664 "Use SGVector instead of pointer in KNN solvers and fix the warning when building KNNSolvers"  synchronized by MikeLing - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366415:33
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CaBaHeikoS: CKernel::kernel() and CKernel::compute() should in priciple also be const, right?15:40
@HeikoSCaBa: yes totally15:41
@HeikoSI mean we can have non-const versions15:41
@HeikoSbut these should not be the defailt15:41
CaBaexcept for my kernel anyways :P15:42
CaBaHeikoS: well if the compute q matrix function in shogunlibsvm has data races, then i guess they can only be caused by the kernel...15:42
iRmantouwiking,could u tell me your command when u complie shogun on windows?15:43
iRmantou I used ' msbuild "D:\project\shogun\build\shogun.sln" /m /verbosity:minimal ' , but i can built it there still are some wrong15:43
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iRmantouanyone else install it on win10?   (。・`ω´・)15:47
iRmantou _(:3 」∠)_15:48
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@HeikoSCaBa: I guess that it true15:59
@HeikoSiRmantou: check the CI build for windows15:59
@HeikoSiRmantou: there is a badge on our github page16:00
@HeikoSCaBa: the problem with this const stuff is: if you touch one, you kind of have to touch all ;)16:00
@HeikoStried that once and gave up after a couple of hours16:01
CaBasure...16:01
iRmantoui see "CI build "for a long time, but that is just a reference,i am right? I should mofigy its commands to suit my environment on native windows16:05
@HeikoSiRmantou: no there is a CI build running on windows, so you can look at how we do it there16:06
@HeikoShttps://ci.appveyor.com/project/vigsterkr/shogun/branch/develop16:07
@HeikoSiRmantou: check this one16:07
@HeikoSiRmantou:  and the config is here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/appveyor.yml16:08
iRmantouok,i know these pages,i will see them again ,thank u!16:11
@HeikoSiRmantou: if you have troubles building, please post a clean yet detailed paste of your environment and the error message16:11
iRmantouok,i'll try again!  ; )16:13
iRmantouIt is interesting.16:14
CaBaHeikoS: hm, my cpp foo is weak today. can you tell me why this still compiles? https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/compare/develop...lkuchenb:sandbox16:18
CaBaHeikoS: normalize() isn't const O.o16:18
CaBaHeikoS: so this shouldn't compile, right?16:18
@HeikoSnormalizer isnt const?16:19
@HeikoSthen I would also expect this to not compile16:19
@HeikoS"discards qualifier" error16:20
CaBahttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/src/shogun/kernel/normalizer/KernelNormalizer.h#L7716:21
CaBanormalize() isn't const16:21
@HeikoSCaBa: where is kernel_const defined?16:23
@HeikoSah you  made that in header file16:23
@HeikoSnevermind16:23
@HeikoSshouldnt work :D16:23
@HeikoSwiking: you around?16:24
@wikingbarely16:24
@HeikoSwiking: https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/multi-os/16:25
@HeikoSwiking: what is your comment to travis and osx?16:25
@wikingmmm16:25
@wikingonce we had it16:25
@wikingbut16:25
@wikingbefore u go into this16:25
@wikingfind out if there's possilbe dependencies16:25
@wikingbetween jobs16:25
@HeikoSthe xval thing you mean16:25
@HeikoSor travis?16:25
@HeikoSI wasnt gonna do it, just was wondering16:26
@wikingtravis16:26
@HeikoSkk16:26
@HeikoSI mean we can check this in arpil as well16:26
@wikingFUCK I HATE16:27
@wikingSBT16:27
@wikingthi sis the worst fucking16:27
@wikingcraziest fucking toolkit16:28
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@HeikoSSBT?16:43
@sukeyPull Request #3661 "Port Inference.cpp to use OpenMP"  synchronized by abhinavrai44 - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366116:49
@sukeyNew Commit "Merge pull request #3665 from geektoni/patch-917:10
@sukeyFix `make cookbook` when certain cookbooks are guarded" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a185e000f2e1847eaad9f3be9e0475be25b90e9217:10
@sukeyPull Request #3665 "Fix `make cookbook` when certain cookbooks are guarded"  merged by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366517:10
@sukeyIssue #3520 "`make cookbook` fails when certain cookbooks are guarded" closed by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/352017:10
@wikingHeikoS, if u do17:29
@wikingth echat soonish17:29
@wikingi'm gonna be around17:29
@wikingfor another 2-3 h17:29
@HeikoSok17:42
@HeikoSwell chat nowish17:42
@HeikoSwiking: just join the link17:42
@wikingwhere's the link? :)17:43
@HeikoSIm waiting for it17:44
@wikingah ok17:44
@HeikoSwiking: just going through the googledoc to remind myself17:44
@HeikoSwiking: there it is17:44
@wikingdonthaveit17:45
@HeikoSwiking: forwarded17:46
@HeikoSwiking: you joining?17:48
@HeikoSIm on my own right now17:48
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@sukeyPull Request #3662 "Port DistanceMachine.cpp to use OpenMP"  synchronized by abhinavrai44 - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366217:53
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@wikingOXPHOS, pingi18:44
@wikingHeikoS, y018:44
@wikingso one more thing18:44
@wikingwhat do we miss for the release?18:45
@HeikoSwiking: xval race, octave multithread18:45
@HeikoSbuildbot18:45
@wikingmmm wait18:45
@wikingxval race is still happening18:45
@HeikoSyes18:45
@wikingeven after this merge?18:45
@HeikoSbuild is green18:45
@wikingman we should have never reverted the reverted commit18:45
@wiking:)))18:45
@HeikoSbut helgrind moans18:45
@HeikoScheck out the issue that CaBa opened18:45
@wikingok i dont do it now )18:47
@wikingsomebody else fix it please :D18:48
@wikingwe need cloud18:48
@wiking:)18:48
OXPHOSwiking: hey18:49
@wikingho18:50
@wikingso?18:50
@wikingrebase all good?18:50
OXPHOSwiking: yep!18:50
@wikinggr818:50
OXPHOSwiking: u wanna have a look at the atomic stuff?18:51
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/20704920818:52
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@wikingmmm18:52
@wikingyeah18:52
@wikingsure18:52
OXPHOSthanks!18:53
@wikingOXPHOS, where is it18:55
@wikingbeause i think u need to rebase it18:55
@wiking:)18:55
@wikingor what the hell where should i look18:55
@wiking?18:55
OXPHOSwiking: just realized it needs rebase..will ping you if you're still around18:57
@wikinglisitsyn, pitty18:57
@wikingOXPHOS, imight crash in th emeanwhile but i'll look into it first thing then in the morning18:57
OXPHOSwiking: cool thx :>18:58
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@sukeyPull Request #3664 "Use SGVector instead of pointer in KNN solvers and fix the warning when building KNNSolvers"  merged by vigsterkr - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/366419:00
@sukeyNew Commit "Merge pull request #3664 from MikeLing/clean_up_KNN19:01
@sukeyUse SGVector instead of pointer in KNN solvers and fix the warning when building KNNSolvers" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by vigsterkr: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d2e70ec9feb8169d42d98dc095a807ecf20f2c0319:01
shogun-buildbotbuild #114 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/114  blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>, Tiramisu 1993 <sabergeass@gmail.com>19:12
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@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build 'bsd1 - libshogun'19:19
shogun-buildbotbuild forced [ETA 1m48s]19:19
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes19:19
shogun-buildbotbuild #115 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/11519:20
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@sukeyPull Request #3635 "LinalgRefactor - Memory Transfer Mutex"  closed by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/363520:01
@sukeyPull Request #3635 "LinalgRefactor - Memory Transfer Mutex"  synchronized by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/363520:02
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travis-ciit's Viktor Gal's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/20708821420:30
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@sukeyPull Request #3635 "LinalgRefactor - Memory Transfer Mutex"  synchronized by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/363521:01
@sukeyPull Request #3635 "LinalgRefactor - Memory Transfer Mutex"  reopened by OXPHOS - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/363521:01
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